Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

[CFordUNC]

Lol. Yeah, you’re totally right. Our bad.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

I wonder how many Biological Males that transitioned played HS Womens sports?? The number
And how many of them were built like Lawrence Taylor

IMO, this issue for social conservatives has little or nothing to do with transgenders in sports. That's just the excuse. The real issue for them is that transgenders (and non-binary people) exist, period. They want these people to disappear from public life - not seen in movies or television or social media, not to be discussed or referred to at all in schools, and even denied the ability to have gender-affirming surgery and post-surgery care and medications. In Florida under DeSantis the state did just that, even for adults. The clear goal was to force transgender adults to simply leave the state. My guess is that this is eventually what we're going to see Republicans try to do at the national level in the next year or two, especially since they control all three branches of the federal government.

Link: Transgender adults in Florida are blindsided that a new law also limits their access to health care

 

[Mulberry Heel]

I knew something bugged me about Homan. He's freakin' Delbert Grady from The Shining:

Well, they're both racists, so they also have that in common.

 

[wmheel1287]

Both parties are fraught with scandal and corruption get off your high horses

Acting as though both parties are even in the same universe now is intellectually dishonest to the extreme. We are about to have a governing cabinet that contains minimum 2 rapists and 3 others credible accused of sexual assault.

There is nothing comparable.

 

[nycfan]

Also

 

[ZenMode]

Gaetz as AG is letting the fox in to the chicken coop. Wonder if this one has trouble, he’s not that popular with the Rs.

I don't disagree, but I want to see what, if anything, is brought to light with Trump's appointments.

 

[Wolfslayer]

Both parties are fraught with scandal and corruption get off your high horses

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Mandates don't matter. Bush claimed a mandate after 2000 and proceeded to govern like he won in a landslide.

Mandates only matter as predictors. Supposedly they tell the party that won whether they can go fast or slow and still retain support. But Trump doesn't care about that.

It won’t matter to Trump but democrats should keep saying it because 1) it’s true and 2) the public hears it.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

Cleaner ingredients isn't controversial per se, it's just the last time we tried it, you all pretty much rioted.

Might be true but that’s before my time, so it wasn’t me that was rioting about it. I support anyone who tries to help the chronic disease epidemic in America. It’s one of the most worthy causes government could take, IMO.

 

[rodoheel]

Might be true but that’s before my time, so it wasn’t me that was rioting about it. I support anyone who tries to help the chronic disease epidemic in America. It’s one of the most worthy causes government could take, IMO.

Thee Obama admin is before your time? lol

You cannot seriously pretend like you don't know that Republicans have traditionally been very hostile to the government seeking to impose better health outcomes on Americans by banning or more tightly regulating the things that contribute to our negative health outcomes - processed foods, sugary foods and drinks, smoking, alcohol, etc. Hell, it isn't even remotely coherent with the Musk/Ramaswamy wing of Trump's coalition that claims to support aggressively reducing government regulation. Which side of the political aisle do you really think the large corporate food manufacturers in our country have been aligned with?

Anyway I truly hope RFK and Trump try to get a bunch of unhealthy processed foods off of our shelves. It's a win-win. It will be good for health outcomes, and the public will absolutely hate it. Unfortunately, what is more likely to happen is that RFK will go after niche food additives that don't appear to cause any harm to anyone, and claim to be making us all healthier while ignoring the larger issues (most centrally, as a country we buy and eat too many calorie-dense, nutrient-light foods and don't exercise enough).

 

[Healing]

You cannot seriously pretend

Oh, but he can, and he will, dozens of times in the coming months.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

Thee Obama admin is before your time? lol

You cannot seriously pretend like you don't know that Republicans have traditionally been very hostile to the government seeking to impose better health outcomes on Americans by banning or more tightly regulating the things that contribute to our negative health outcomes - processed foods, sugary foods and drinks, smoking, alcohol, etc. Hell, it isn't even remotely coherent with the Musk/Ramaswamy wing of Trump's coalition that claims to support aggressively reducing government regulation. Which side of the political aisle do you really think the large corporate food manufacturers in our country have been aligned with?

Anyway I truly hope RFK and Trump try to get a bunch of unhealthy processed foods off of our shelves. It's a win-win. It will be good for health outcomes, and the public will absolutely hate it. Unfortunately, what is more likely to happen is that RFK will go after niche food additives that don't appear to cause any harm to anyone, and claim to be making us all healthier while ignoring the larger issues (most centrally, as a country we buy and eat too many calorie-dense, nutrient-light foods and don't exercise enough).

Yes, Obama was elected for the first time when I was 18 years old and I didn’t follow politics half as close as I do now. I gave exactly zero thought to whatever Michelle Obama said about healthy school lunches.

Agree that getting the unhealthy processed foods off the shelves, or at least cleaned up incrementally with less dyes etc, would be a win for all.

Obviously the answer to what will make America healthier is *both* diet and exercise. No argument from me that exercise is a big component too. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t serious opportunity to improve the ingredients we allow in our foods.

 

[mpaer]

It would be nice to considerably tamp down on civilian access to Assault weapons-or just bullets

 

[1moretimeagain]

Yes, Obama was elected for the first time when I was 18 years old and I didn’t follow politics half as close as I do now. I gave exactly zero thought to whatever Michelle Obama said about healthy school lunches.

Agree that getting the unhealthy processed foods off the shelves, or at least cleaned up incrementally with less dyes etc, would be a win for all.

Obviously the answer to what will make America healthier is *both* diet and exercise. No argument from me that exercise is a big component too. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t serious opportunity to improve the ingredients we allow in our foods.

To catch you up - Michelle Obama led a campaign for healthier school lunches and the Right was very opposed!

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I must have missed the issue with artificial food coloring, is that a major issue? I’ve long viewed the biggest issue with processed grocery store food to be the amount of sugar/corn syrup. Fast food products no doubt have factors beyon that,

 

[tarheelbillie]

In almost every way.

Not just almost every way!

 

[UNCatTech]

Cleaner ingredients isn't controversial per se, it's just the last time we tried it, you all pretty much rioted.

It is controversial, because there is no definition of "Cleaner". Just like there are no "Super" foods and "Detoxing" is not a thing.

Just like there's no definition of "organic" which has morphed into nothing more than marketing.

And don't get me started on all of the fake protective agencies, like the Non-GMO project that labeled salt as GMO free. Or the Dolphin safe tuna whose primary methodology for safety is to ask the captain if he caught a dolphin and threw it back.

I completely agree that the food industry needs to improve. Little things like not letting the sugar industry lobby the FDA to double the recommended daily intake of sugar, which was already too high.

There are things that can be done to improve the average person's food intake, which should reasonable translate into a healthier population and less medical cost. But those are not going to happen with an idiot like the orange dictator and his piss boy RFK in charge.

 

[UNCatTech]

I thought there were good people on both sides.

 

[1moretimeagain]

I saw someone compare it to forcing the new gang member to consume illegal drugs to make sure they aren’t a cop.

 

[Zoo_View]

Remember the food pyramid from the ‘60’s, ‘70’s, and ‘80’s?

That was supposedly healthy eating.

Special K cereal and Raisin Bran were supposedly healthy eating.

When I was 13 years-old, I went on one of my big growth spurts…..from about 4’1” to 4’5”…..I was working out 6 days a week, swimming ridiculous yardage, eating like a horse…..and I couldn’t add muscle or size…..I was getting faster because I was swimming better, more technically sound….

My coach and Mom hit on the nutritional goldmine of a HUGE bowl of Total Cereal with 3 bananas in it AND a milkshake with 2 raw eggs, about a half-gallon of Breyer’s Ice Cream, and enough milk to fill a blender. That was breakfast.

Nutrition in the 20th Century was the Dark Ages.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

Well, unless Bernie is just trolling them (and I hope he is), Bernie and Josh Hawley seem to be on the same page with respect to domestic policy.

It cannot be said enough how idiotic a 10% cap on credit card interest rates would be. Credit card interest rates are set by one of the most competitive markets in the world. The interest rates are as high as necessary to cover losses from nonpayment.

10% cap on credit cards is one of the dumbest proposals ever. It’s like the people who think student loans should be interest free. Only way to achieve that is a massive government subsidy or else no one is actually going to lend on those terms.