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WTAF is that non-sequitur? I get he is talking about his nominee for ambassador to Denmark but still, he’s my guy, BYW we want Greenland and we want it now. what’s his freaking game? Is he high all the time? Make Canada the 51st state, seize the Panama Canal, take control of Greenland?

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WTAF is that non-sequitur? I get he is talking about his nominee for ambassador to Denmark but still, he’s my guy, BYW we want Greenland and we want it now. what’s his freaking game? Is he high all the time? Make Canada the 51st state, seize the Panama Canal, take control of Greenland?

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Well, since he did campaign on radical foreign interventionism and entanglement, this all makes total sense. Right, Pubs?
 
I have a feeling the real story here is that Trump is in way worse shape than most people realize and is being protected by his handlers much like Biden was over the last couple of years. Note that we’ve seen almost nothing of Trump since the election, and his tweets are obviously being written by others. And he was mostly incoherent the last month on two on the campaign trail.

Elon has clearly become his mouthpiece, so it’s extremely likely one of two narratives is true. Either Elon is calling the shots and Trump is just choosing to be his Reek, or Elon is calling the shots because Trump is no longer physically and mentally capable of doing it himself. Either way, the chickens are already coming home to roost for the GOP, and they’re about to experience a world of hurt over the next few months. This is what happens when you choose chaos agents over leaders.
The third alternative is that Trump doesn't care who is calling the shots. He just wants the pomp and to stay out of jail with a side of power to punish people that aren't loyal. It isn't like he was a policy wonk the first time around. Nothing has changed, I'd be shocked if he's told more than one of his 'handlers' (miller and that crew), I don't care what you do so long as I don't get blamed/people like me; my taxes are dropped and I can continue to graft. However, while Trump might not care his handlers certainly do as their plan was to be the power behind the throne implementing their agenda. If the handlers move against Leon, that is a signal that it is a civil war over who gets to pull Trump's puppet strings.
 
So purchasing a bible printed in China with the signature of a cult leader is considered faith?
Yep, pretty much. I've become convinced that present-day Evangelical Christianity is all about appearances with little substance underneath. Proudly carry that Trump Bible, proudly wave and post around your yard and home the flags and signs and symbols of a False Prophet whose entire life is a total rejection of pretty much that everything Jesus supposedly taught and stood for, and proudly proclaim that yours is the only true faith while forcing your beliefs into public schools so all kids have to be indoctrinated with them, whether the parents want it or not. #winning #TrumpIsGod
 
Yep, pretty much. I've become convinced that present-day Evangelical Christianity is all about appearances with little substance underneath. Proudly carry that Trump Bible, proudly wave and post around your yard and home the flags and signs and symbols of a False Prophet whose entire life is a total rejection of pretty much that everything Jesus supposedly taught and stood for, and proudly proclaim that yours is the only true faith while forcing your beliefs into public schools so all kids have to be indoctrinated with them, whether the parents want it or not. #winning #TrumpIsGod
Evangelical Christianity isn’t the problem. I know many Evangelical Christians who we’d call Liberals; they do good work.

It’s the fundamentalist, right-wing “Christians” who are the problem……and, we have fundamentalist, reactionary Protestants and Catholics.
 
The third alternative is that Trump doesn't care who is calling the shots. He just wants the pomp and to stay out of jail with a side of power to punish people that aren't loyal. It isn't like he was a policy wonk the first time around. Nothing has changed, I'd be shocked if he's told more than one of his 'handlers' (miller and that crew), I don't care what you do so long as I don't get blamed/people like me; my taxes are dropped and I can continue to graft. However, while Trump might not care his handlers certainly do as their plan was to be the power behind the throne implementing their agenda. If the handlers move against Leon, that is a signal that it is a civil war over who gets to pull Trump's puppet strings.
Yeah, that was what I was trying to suggest with my first option, but I agree that’s a possibility. I’m still going to be watching closely, though, to see if Trump’s cognitive abilities continue to decline. After all the criticism of Biden and the media’s coverage, I’m sure our house Pubs will be doing the same. Right?
 

Trump picks billionaire financier for deputy defense secretary​

The choice of Stephen Feinberg of Cerberus Capital Management comes as Pete Hegseth continues to face questions in the confirmation process for the top Pentagon post.


“… Feinberg is the co-CEO of Cerberus Capital Management, which has invested in hypersonic missiles and previously owned the private military contractor DynCorp, a company that was acquired by another defense firm, Amentum, in 2020.


During the first Trump administration, Feinberg led the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board, which provides the U.S. leader advice on intelligence assessments and estimates and counterintelligence matters. In his announcement Sunday night on Truth Social, Trump said Feinberg is “an extremely successful businessman” who will “help Make the Pentagon Great Again.”

Feinberg, who has been a reclusive Wall Street executive, is likely to be questioned about whether there is any conflict arising from his work in defense contracting matters and whether he is qualified to play such a major role in helping run the Pentagon.

The deputy defense secretary typically manages day-to-day operations of the massive bureaucracy with a combined workforce of more than 3 million service members and civilian employees.

The search for a capable No. 2 took on heightened significance as lawmakers weigh the pick of Hegseth, a former Fox News personality, to be defense secretary. …”
 

Trump picks billionaire financier for deputy defense secretary​

The choice of Stephen Feinberg of Cerberus Capital Management comes as Pete Hegseth continues to face questions in the confirmation process for the top Pentagon post.


“… Feinberg is the co-CEO of Cerberus Capital Management, which has invested in hypersonic missiles and previously owned the private military contractor DynCorp, a company that was acquired by another defense firm, Amentum, in 2020.


During the first Trump administration, Feinberg led the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board, which provides the U.S. leader advice on intelligence assessments and estimates and counterintelligence matters. In his announcement Sunday night on Truth Social, Trump said Feinberg is “an extremely successful businessman” who will “help Make the Pentagon Great Again.”

Feinberg, who has been a reclusive Wall Street executive, is likely to be questioned about whether there is any conflict arising from his work in defense contracting matters and whether he is qualified to play such a major role in helping run the Pentagon.

The deputy defense secretary typically manages day-to-day operations of the massive bureaucracy with a combined workforce of more than 3 million service members and civilian employees.

The search for a capable No. 2 took on heightened significance as lawmakers weigh the pick of Hegseth, a former Fox News personality, to be defense secretary. …”
Not sure if there is a new angle here, but I think this selection was announced a couple weeks ago.
 
Not sure if there is a new angle here, but I think this selection was announced a couple weeks ago.
Trump announced him yesterday, though I believe his nomination had previously been discussed in the media.

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The weird thing is that Greenland does have some significant strategic value from a military perspective, especially if Russia loses its naval access through the Mediterranean with what's happening in Syria and Turkey. But there's no reason we need to own it. It shouldn't be hard to maintain good diplomatic and military relations with the freaking Danes. Unless you're a geopolitical moron, of course. And Trump can't help but add racism to the fire of idiocy by suggesting we should trade Puerto Rico for Greenland.
 


“… His comments, delivered in public remarks and social-media posts on Sunday, come after he recently trolled Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau by suggesting that Canada should become the 51st state and referring to Trudeau as a governor. During the recent presidential campaign, Trump said he would deploy the U.S. military to impose a naval embargo on Mexican cartels and order the Pentagon to use American special forces to take down cartel leaders.

… Taken together, the president-elect’s broadsides signal that he will pursue a confrontational foreign-policy agenda, leveraging unconventional threats and pointed demands in an attempt to gain advantage over allies and adversaries alike.

Trump is often prone to provocation, and it wasn’t immediately clear if he would try to follow through on his demands. But if he does, he is likely to face stiff resistance from world leaders, who would object to any effort to undermine their sovereignty.

… Trump’s comments about the Panama Canal drew an angry rebuke from Panamanian President José Raúl Mulino, who took office in July after campaigning on a platform to curb U.S.-bound migration through the country’s pristine tropical rainforests with support from the U.S. government. He rejected Trump’s threats as an affront to Panama’s sovereignty.

“Every square meter of the Panama Canal and its adjacent area belongs to Panama and will continue to be so,” Mulino responded in a video address Sunday afternoon. “The sovereignty and independence of our country aren’t negotiable.”

“We’ll see about that!” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform later in the day. He added in another social-media post featuring an image of a waterway and an American flag, “Welcome to the United States Canal!”

Short of an invasion, as the U.S. carried out in 1989 to overthrow then-dictator Manuel Noriega, the U.S. government has no ability to restore control of the canal, which the U.S. built more than a century ago. …”

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Trump is weirdly setting his political capital on fire before he even gets inaugurated. The potential downfall of Justin Trudeau, where his groveling before Trump after the election and Trump threatening a tariff war with Canada was seen as a last straw for the weakened PM by a lot of his own party, is a pretty clear sign to other world leaders that standing up to Trump will be a better political strategy, at least in the short term.

I dunno, setting aside my extensive policy differences with Trump, I genuinely don’t see the political upside in a lot of what he has been posting and saying about Greenland, Panama, Canada and other foreign relations. It is sort of like the failed 11th hour assault on the CR, where he belatedly demanded something he didn’t have the votes for and had to take an unforced “L” when he didn’t even have to be involved at all, all the while blatantly stating he wanted to pin raising the debt ceiling on Biden so people wouldn’t blame Trump.

Or like nominating Matt Gaetz for anything, much less AG.

Baffling political moves, TBH. Like if I thought he takes any advice from anyone, I would swear someone advising him is a mole trying to undermine his presidency as early as possible.
 
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