Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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GIFT LINK --> Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.

Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.​

President Biden is bequeathing his successor a nation that by many measures is in good shape, even if voters remain unconvinced.

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To hear President-elect Donald J. Trump tell it, he is about to take over a nation ravaged by crisis, a desolate hellscape of crime, chaos and economic hardship. “Our Country is a disaster, a laughing stock all over the World!” he declared on social media last week.

But by many traditional metrics, the America that Mr. Trump will inherit from President Biden when he takes the oath for a second time, two weeks from Monday, is actually in better shape than that bequeathed to any newly elected president since George W. Bush came into office in 2001.

For the first time since that transition 24 years ago, there will be no American troops at war overseas on Inauguration Day. New data reported in the past few days indicate that murders are way down, illegal immigration at the southern border has fallen even below where it was when Mr. Trump left office and roaring stock markets finished their best two years in a quarter-century.

Jobs are up, wages are rising and the economy is growing as fast as it did during Mr. Trump’s presidency. Unemployment is as low as it was just before the Covid-19 pandemic and near its historic best. Domestic energy production is higher than it has ever been.

The manufacturing sector has more jobs than under any president since Mr. Bush. Drug overdose deaths have fallen for the first time in years. Even inflation, the scourge of the Biden presidency, has returned closer to normal, although prices remain higher than they were four years ago.

“President Trump is inheriting an economy that is about as good as it ever gets,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics. “The U.S. economy is the envy of the rest of the world, as it is the only significant economy that is growing more quickly post-pandemic than prepandemic.”

Those positive trends were not enough to swing a sour electorate behind Vice President Kamala Harris in the November election, reflecting a substantial gap between what statistics say and what ordinary Americans appear to feel about the state of the country. ..."

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He starts his administration with a straight flush, let's say Queen or maybe Jack high. Does he go for a royal flush or toss out the entire hand dealt to him b/c Biden? Or does he stand pat and claim credit for his inherited hand and reap the benefit of people feeling better about the same facts with a different face of current events?
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His people want to wreck shit. I suspect they’re going to give it a strong go.
 
nycfan said:








These posts alternate with posts claiming the UK government is covering up Pakistani rape gangs, that Grok is the future of AI, please be more positive on Xitter and we’re going to Mars, baby! (The last one I suspect may be at the core of his attempt to seize control of the U.S. government - to get funding for his dream of going to Mars at the expense of pretty much everything else).
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Maybe we can all just circumvent the process by pitching in enough to send him to Mars, under the caveat that it be a one-way trip?
 
lawtig02 said:
That, and worse. Right wing media, and Trump’s constant lies in particular, have made it so that half of America is convinced it lives in a much, much worse country than actually exists.
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Absolutely. Well, until Trump takes power (or is elected even) and then everything magically improves in an instant.
 
It's wild to think back to when Musk "overpaid" for Twitter just a couple years ago. At the time, no one realized how radicalized and consumed with power and greed Musk had become. Truth be told, you can't put a price on unilateral ownership of humanity's most robust disinformation/propaganda platform if that is one's intended use. Billionaire Goebbels has become one of the most dangerous people on the planet.
 
I saw a headline today that Musk was about to buy Liverpool soccer club, so maybe he will lose interest in ruining the US.
 
JCTarheel82 said:
It's wild to think back to when Musk "overpaid" for Twitter just a couple years ago. At the time, no one realized how radicalized and consumed with power and greed Musk had become. Truth be told, you can't put a price on unilateral ownership of humanity's most robust disinformation/propaganda platform if that is one's intended use. Billionaire Goebbels has become one of the most dangerous people on the planet.
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I think you are giving twitter much more credit than it deserves. That it has no guardrails does not mean that it is particularly influential. Tiktok and Meta are far, far more important platforms.
 
Calheel said:
I think you are giving twitter much more credit than it deserves. That it has no guardrails does not mean that it is particularly influential. Tiktok and Meta are far, far more important platforms.
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Culturally? 💯

Politically, closer call.
 
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