Trump Rallies & Interviews Catch-All | Trump - “just stop talking about that”

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Zoo_View said:
Who is that douche agreeing with Trump?
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His name is Theo Von, he's known as a comedian. I actually got to work with him and be around him years ago and he was pretty funny, witty, and just an overall nice dude. Then... time passed and he's seemed to embrace the conservative side of things. People have talked about him like he's the next Joe Rogan (which I don't think will happen) but for whatever reason, he's taken this path. Kevin Nealon did a pretty funny interview with him where you can see he's a decent dude but.. I hope he's just being naive or something.

 
Rock said:
His name is Theo Von, he's known as a comedian. I actually got to work with him and be around him years ago and he was pretty funny, witty, and just an overall nice dude. Then... time passed and he's seemed to embrace the conservative side of things. People have talked about him like he's the next Joe Rogan (which I don't think will happen) but for whatever reason, he's taken this path. Kevin Nealon did a pretty funny interview with him where you can see he's a decent dude but.. I hope he's just being naive or something.

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Got his start on MTV's Road Rules in the early 2000's and rode that to appearing on a few seasons of The Challenge. Think he might have also won some season of a stand-up comedy show (Last Comic standing?).
 
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Rock said:
His name is Theo Von, he's known as a comedian. I actually got to work with him and be around him years ago and he was pretty funny, witty, and just an overall nice dude. Then... time passed and he's seemed to embrace the conservative side of things. People have talked about him like he's the next Joe Rogan (which I don't think will happen) but for whatever reason, he's taken this path. Kevin Nealon did a pretty funny interview with him where you can see he's a decent dude but.. I hope he's just being naive or something.

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Or he just doesn’t share your political views. Doesn’t make him naive.
 


“… Trump, whose lies about theft of the 2020 election inspired his supporters to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power, falsely accused Harris of orchestrating a “vicious, violent overthrow” by replacing President Joe Biden at the top of the Democratic ticket.

Biden withdrew last month and endorsed Harris. While the process was unusual, it was legal and did not involve violence.

He went on to defend the Jan. 6 rioters by falsely claiming “nobody was killed,” as he compared that day to the protests that erupted after the police killing of George Floyd.

… Asked about the Democrats’ criticism over Howell’s historic association with the Ku Klux Klan, Trump responded that Biden had visited here in 2021.

… In Tuesday’s speech, Trump also joked about his criminal record, comparing it to early 20th century gangster Al Capone, drawing chuckles from the audience of sheriff’s office employees, friends and family.

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On Tuesday, Trump concluded a digression about car plants moving to Mexico by suggesting that his opposition could have led to the shooting.

“Maybe that’s the way I get shot at and other people don’t,” he said.

“They’ll protect other people because they can’t believe they got so lucky,” he added, without explanation. “But I have to do what I have to do.”

Trump’s remarks included false accusations about Harris’s record on crime. He blamed her for a 2014 ballot initiative that reclassified theft of less than $950 as a misdemeanor. He also falsely accused her of reclassifying other crimes as nonviolent. …”
 
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“… His prepared remarks included a call for child rapists to face the death penalty, but he did not deliver that passage. …”
 


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I was genuinely unaware Hochul spoke yesterday, but I guess she made an impression on one old dude. Aha, she spoke on Monday.

 
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Rock said:
His name is Theo Von, he's known as a comedian. I actually got to work with him and be around him years ago and he was pretty funny, witty, and just an overall nice dude. Then... time passed and he's seemed to embrace the conservative side of things. People have talked about him like he's the next Joe Rogan (which I don't think will happen) but for whatever reason, he's taken this path. Kevin Nealon did a pretty funny interview with him where you can see he's a decent dude but.. I hope he's just being naive or something.

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Your mileage may vary, but my yardstick for measuring if someone is a “decent human” is how they treat out-groups.

They may love their mothers, behave selflessly with thier friends, donate time and money to good causes and othwise be exemplary towards anyone they consider members of their In-group, but the acid test is their attitudes towards out-groups.

No matter how decent you are to people in your in-group, if you want to take a **** on people in an out-group, you’re still an *******.
 
Ddseddse said:
Your mileage may vary, but my yardstick for measuring if someone is a “decent human” is how they treat out-groups.

They may love their mothers, behave selflessly with thier friends, donate time and money to good causes and othwise be exemplary towards anyone they consider members of their In-group, but the acid test is their attitudes towards out-groups.

No matter how decent you are to people in your in-group, if you want to take a **** on people in an out-group, you’re still an *******.
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Growing up white, Southern & evangelical, before the Trump era I always thought that many of the people I grew up with, went to church with, lived around were “good people” even if I didn’t agree with them politically or had differing world views.

Since 2015 my eyes have been opened that a good portion of those “good people” are only good as long as you look and think like them. Not really all that good if you don’t.
 
nycfan said:
Bingo on Keith Smart as my model there, though believe he was a JuCo, not a freshman.
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Keith Smart was a junior when he hit that shot, after coming from a JuCo. But he was actually a good, efficient shooter throughout his college career. His senior year, his FG% was a very good 51.8%, which was just slightly better than the 51.7% he shot during his junior year. His 3PT% dipped from 36.4% his junior year to 32.1% his senior year, but he averaged only 1 3PT attempt per game each year.
 
One thing that occurred to me this morning — Trump announced his candidacy historically early, mainly to try to influence the criminal charges coming his way. That decision may be backfiring on him spectacularly right now. It would be hard for anyone to stay fresh for two full years, and Trump has always been a bit of a one hit wonder. But it’s so obvious now in contrast to Kamala, who seems fresh and energetic and hopeful about the future. Trump could hardly look older, more boring, more washed up. I’m really not sure he has a way to turn that around at this point barring a major meltdown by the Dems.
 
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lawtig02 said:
One thing that occurred to me this morning — Trump announced his candidacy historically early, mainly to try to influence the criminal charges coming his way. That decision may be backfiring on him spectacularly right now. It would be hard for anyone to stay fresh for two full years, and Trump has always been a bit of a one hit wonder. But it’s so incredibly obvious in contrast to Kamala, who seems fresh and energetic and hopeful about the future. Trump could hardly look older, more boring, more washed up. I’m really not sure he has a way to turn that around at this point barring an absolutely catastrophic meltdown by the Dems.
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Your mention of his early announcement to influence criminal charges is interesting. When he left office, I actually didn’t think he’d run again. It seemed like he never cared for the demands of the job and he never took being under scrutiny well at all. I figured he didn’t want any more of that and would just relish being a cult leader and Republican kingmaker outside of office. Basically he could maintain the status he had among his supporters without the demands and responsibilities associated with being president, and he could continue his grifting without the same level of scrutiny he would have if he were in public office.

But once it became apparent he would be facing criminal charges, I knew he would run again. It would be much easier for him to obstruct justice and get away with it.

I do wonder if he would have decided to run again if he were not facing criminal charges. Absent criminal charges, would he have declined to run again for the reasons I mentioned above?
 
HeelingAg said:
Even I, as a borderline insufferable cynic (including to myself), have turned a corner and now feel similarly. I don't think ttump can win, barring a Harris/Walz meltdown. ttump looks like 2022 Udonis Haslem out there.
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Trump is looking significantly old and crusty and he’s sounding very weak when he speaks publicly.
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HeelingAg said:
Even I, as a borderline insufferable cynic (including to myself), have turned a corner and now feel similarly. I don't think ttump can win, barring a Harris/Walz meltdown. ttump looks like 2022 Udonis Haslem out there.
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This is where I am…especially the last week or so.

I also feel like the House goes back blue, and I’m up to 50/50 on holding the Senate, where I was 25/75 at best a couple of weeks ago.
 
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