Trump Rallies & Interviews Catch-All | Trump - “just stop talking about that”

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Paine said:
I think there are a handful of Dems that would be running better than Harris right now. Specifically a certain midwestern governor who doesn’t have the Biden admin’s national baggage.
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I really doubt it. As long as you have Trump he is always going to have his cult members that support him due to those reasons I stated. There are some Pubs that have refused to vote for Trump again. I don't think that's because of Harris, but because of how awful and incompetent Trump is. No one the Dems could run would be worse than Trump. It's more about those supporting Trump no matter what for those reasons than who the Dems have running. In other words, I don't thnk any Dem would sway those people from voting Trump. Jesus could be the candidate and those folks would still support Trump.
 
CarolinaFever said:
I really doubt it. As long as you have Trump he is always going to have his cult members that support him due to those reasons I stated. There are some Pubs that have refused to vote for Trump again. I don't think that's because of Harris, but because of how awful and incompetent Trump is. No one the Dems could run would be worse than Trump. It's more about those supporting Trump no matter what for those reasons than who the Dems have running. In other words, I don't thnk any Dem would sway those people from voting Trump. Jesus could be the candidate and those folks would still support Trump.
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He has more support now than he did in 2016 or 2020, so I don’t think he’s relying on that core of support exclusively anymore. His winning coalition in 2024 would be much different from his coalition in 2016. Trust polling or don’t, but every poll shows softening support for Dems among working class people of all races. I think there are several aspects that go into that, but Kamala having to defend higher grocery prices and rent doesn’t help her.

A Dem governor (Walz or Whitmer would’ve been my first choices if it was up to me) would get a pass on higher prices from low info voters.

Just my opinion, but I think it’s supported by the publicly available data.
 
Paine said:
He has more support now than he did in 2016 or 2020, so I don’t think he’s relying on that core of support exclusively anymore. His winning coalition in 2024 would be much different from his coalition in 2016. Trust polling or don’t, but every poll shows softening support for Dems among working class people of all races. I think there are several aspects that go into that, but Kamala having to defend higher grocery prices and rent doesn’t help her.

A Dem governor (Walz or Whitmer would’ve been my first choices if it was up to me) would get a pass on higher prices from low info voters.

Just my opinion, but I think it’s supported by the publicly available data.
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I think it is the same core he had then. Just bigger since the last two elections because that core has become even more afraid of losing their privilege just because they are straight, white Christians. It's all based on racism, bigotry and irrational fear.
 
Paine said:
I think there are a handful of Dems that would be running better than Harris right now. Specifically a certain midwestern governor who doesn’t have the Biden admin’s national baggage.
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I do too. Biden, or biden's people, really screwed us by waiting to step down.

If we had had a real primary, I don't think Kamala makes it much past super Tuesday, And we would be running a better politician that would walk away with this.
 
CarolinaFever said:
I think it is the same core he had then. Just bigger since the last two elections because that core has become even more afraid of losing their privilege just because they are straight, white Christians. It's all based on racism, bigotry and irrational fear.
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My point is, if his base was just straight white racist Christians, his coalition would like a lot like 2016 but with less support from the moderate Rs who pulled the lever for him then. But it has shifted since then to include a larger percentage of working class Black people and Latinos.
 
Paine said:
My point is, if his base was just straight white racist Christians, his coalition would like a lot like 2016 but with less support from the moderate Rs who pulled the lever for him then. But it has shifted since then to include a larger percentage of working class Black people and Latinos.
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I would strongly suspect an evangelical Christian influence on that with a side of machismo.
 
finesse said:
I would strongly suspect an evangelical Christian influence on that with a side of machismo.
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Maybe for the Latinos, but I think most young Black men aren’t really going to church anymore.

Don’t get me wrong, misogyny has to be playing a part here. I think it’s a complex puzzle. In an election this close, every piece matters. That includes low info voters who aren’t racist, have voted for Dems in the past, and will vote for Trump in 2024 because of vague notions about Dems being in power while inflation rose.

A candidate not tied to the current WH would’ve been better situated to address that.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I do too. Biden, or biden's people, really screwed us by waiting to step down.

If we had had a real primary, I don't think Kamala makes it much past super Tuesday, And we would be running a better politician that would walk away with this.
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It's not about Harris. There are a lot more people who voted for Trump before who are switching to vote for Harris than people who voted for Biden are switching to vote for Trump. It's more about how Trump is than who the Dems are running.
 
Paine said:
I think there are a handful of Dems that would be running better than Harris right now. Specifically a certain midwestern governor who doesn’t have the Biden admin’s national baggage.
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big gretch?

her time will come. if we still have somewhat free / fair elections in the future. we just barely, sorta have them now thanks to gerrymandering, voter suppression, citizens united, the electoral college, misinformation campaigns, etc. etc.
 
nycfan said:




I mean, that’s how he sees his MAGA cultists.
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He's not
Paine said:
He has more support now than he did in 2016 or 2020, so I don’t think he’s relying on that core of support exclusively anymore. His winning coalition in 2024 would be much different from his coalition in 2016. Trust polling or don’t, but every poll shows softening support for Dems among working class people of all races. I think there are several aspects that go into that, but Kamala having to defend higher grocery prices and rent doesn’t help her.

A Dem governor (Walz or Whitmer would’ve been my first choices if it was up to me) would get a pass on higher prices from low info voters.

Just my opinion, but I think it’s supported by the publicly available data.
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What is so aggravating about your post is that only Kamala has a plan to attack the higher grocery prices. Trump talks about his magic tariffs solving it.

The fact that polling shows this race as close is mind blowing and a testament to the power of conservative media.
 
bridgetender said:
He's not

What is so aggravating about your post is that only Kamala has a plan to attack the higher grocery prices. Trump talks about his magic tariffs solving it.

The fact that polling shows this race as close is mind blowing and a testament to the power of conservative media.
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Yep, it is aggravating. Unfortunately it’s the truth.
 
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