Trump Retribution Phase | Trump post demands Bondi prosecute his enemies

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nycfan said:
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“… It’s not clear whether the Russian assessments of the DNC communications were accurate, and the report does not address whether the Russian intelligence about Mrs. Clinton was exaggerated or misinterpreted.

For example, Russian intelligence claimed to have information that Mrs. Clinton suffered from “Type 2 diabetes, ischemic heart disease, deep vein thrombosis and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.”

The primary risk factors for COPD are heavy smoking and occupational hazards, which would make Mrs. Clinton, a nonsmoker, an unlikely candidate for this disease.

In 2015, a doctor released a letter affirming she was in good health and was fit to serve as president….”
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“… Gabbard declassified an eight-year-old intelligence report by congressional Republicans that sought to cast doubt on a key element of the probe of Russia’s 2016 election interference, the latest step in a campaign by her, CIA Director John Ratcliffe and Trump to portray the Russia investigation as a “hoax.”

The previously secret 2017 report by Republican staff on the House Intelligence Committee confirmed spy agencies’ findings that Russian intelligence services, acting on President Vladimir Putin’s orders, interfered in the 2016 contest between Trump and Hillary Clinton. …

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It’s a small, small world! Guess who was on Nunes’s staff in 2017?

Kash Patel! Patel was primary author of a 2018 memo Nunes released attacking the FBI’s handling of the Russia investigation (and Patel is likely to have been involved in the pro of the document Gabbard declassified yesterday, if the 2017 date of the report notes by the WaPo and not the 2020 date on the released copy, is correct).

 
nycfan said:
From the link:

“… It’s not clear whether the Russian assessments of the DNC communications were accurate, and the report does not address whether the Russian intelligence about Mrs. Clinton was exaggerated or misinterpreted.

For example, Russian intelligence claimed to have information that Mrs. Clinton suffered from “Type 2 diabetes, ischemic heart disease, deep vein thrombosis and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.”

The primary risk factors for COPD are heavy smoking and occupational hazards, which would make Mrs. Clinton, a nonsmoker, an unlikely candidate for this disease.

In 2015, a doctor released a letter affirming she was in good health and was fit to serve as president….”
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Sure, we'll probably never know if Hillary is as ill as the emails supposedly made here appear.

What does seem to be true is that Russia held back the information that they believed they could leverage IF Hillary won, while releasing everything else they hoped would help Trump/hurt Hillary.
 
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rodoheel said:
MAGA has been calling for Hilary to be locked up for a decade and it hasn't happened yet. it's all part of the performance.

it's basically like the WWE version of politics. At the next Republican national convention they'll probably have a fake Trump supplex a fake Obama through a table, to raucous applause.
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Yes — I hear you. What seems different here is the specific referral by Gabbard, the “official” activity inside the Trump admin. And I suppose the desperation of Trump and those around him.
 
farce© said:
No shit. With all the old hits they are dusting off and recycling this is strange behavior. It is surprising that they are throwing so much against the wall at once and leaving no dry powder. They must be more concerned than I would expect so there must be some serious shit they fear can potentially be exposed. Their willingness to go immediately to defcon 1 tells me some very raw nerves have been touched.
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Here's what I don't understand. Trump will be president for another 3.5 years. What happens when we're two or three years from now and nothing has happened to Obama (because there's nothing remotely legal that CAN happen to Obama)? Trump is calling him a traitor. That's a big freaking accusation. What will his base think if Obama is still walking around, uncharged and certainly unjailed, in the spring of 2028? That Trump is letting a traitor get off?

Now, in the 2% chance Trump actually does something to Obama, all bets are off. To the extent there is any doubt now, that will be the moment we will know with absolute certainty that the GOP has abandoned anything resembling the rule of law.
 
ZenMode said:
Sure, we'll probably never know if Hillary is as ill as the emails supposedly made here appear.

What does seem to be true is that Russia held back the information that they believed they could leverage IF Hillary won, while releasing everything else they hoped would help Trump/hurt Hillary.
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Which goes back to the point that they also likely withheld more information on Trump, that would have been leveraged should he have won (which he did).
 
sringwal said:
Which goes back to the point that they also likely withheld more information on Trump, that would have been leveraged should he have won (which he did).
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Possibly. I think we understand why the current Trump administration is releasing this information. What we don't know is why the Biden administration would not release damaging documents about Trump, if they existed.
 
lawtig02 said:
Here's what I don't understand. Trump will be president for another 3.5 years. What happens when we're two or three years from now and nothing has happened to Obama (because there's nothing remotely legal that CAN happen to Obama)? Trump is calling him a traitor. That's a big freaking accusation. What will his base think if Obama is still walking around, uncharged and certainly unjailed, in the spring of 2028? That Trump is letting a traitor get off?

Now, in the 2% chance Trump actually does something to Obama, all bets are off. To the extent there is any doubt now, that will be the moment we will know with absolute certainty that the GOP has abandoned anything resembling the rule of law.
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My initial reaction was similar, but ultimately his base's brains are so melted at this point that it won't matter. They were chanting to lock up Hilary in 2016 and no one has cared one bit that Trump hasn't done anything in all his time as president. They'll spout off about Obama being a traitor forever and never care that obviously if it was true, trump would have prosecuted him. IMO the only way Trump will possibly be desperate enough to do it (which, as I've said, will be politically unpopular for everyone but the MAGA base - not to mention difficult legally given the standard Trump had the Supreme Court set!) is if things are really falling apart for him and he needs a huge distraction.
 
ZenMode said:
Possibly. I think we understand why the current Trump administration is releasing this information. What we don't know is why the Biden administration would not release damaging documents about Trump, if they existed.
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Probably for the same reason the Biden admin didn't, say. try to fire every Republican in the government or have political stooges metaphorically suck off Biden at cabinet meetings - because the Biden admin wasn't run by a banana republic-style strongman seeking to govern via coercion rather than through the use of the actual levers of government.
 
Because Presidents weren't insane and had class.

Obama and Clapper are backed and verified by the Rubio Committee. He is immune per SCrOTUS anyway.
 
Healing said:
Zen over here perpetuating yet another bit of fascist propaganda … from Putin … via the Washington Times.

Also, the timeline lies are intention, not idiocy. It’s a combination of mimicking the addled godhead and further normalization of misinformation. Flooding the zone with impossibilities wears opposition down, and when you have a cult, there’s already a built in 35-40% that will believe ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING.
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This shit has been patiently explained multiple times on this thread yet he rehashes nonsense over and over. It’s almost as if he has an agenda…..
 
farce© said:
No shit. With all the old hits they are dusting off and recycling this is strange behavior. It is surprising that they are throwing so much against the wall at once and leaving no dry powder. They must be more concerned than I would expect so there must be some serious shit they fear can potentially be exposed. Their willingness to go immediately to defcon 1 tells me some very raw nerves have been touched.
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I’m betting we are not seeing those files to any real extent during the life of this administration. Somewhere in those files the scythe of the grim reaper is reaching for someone important. Maybe Trump, maybe big supporter(s)… . Someone considered invaluable.
 
rodoheel said:
Probably for the same reason the Biden admin didn't, say. try to fire every Republican in the government or have political stooges metaphorically suck off Biden at cabinet meetings - because the Biden admin wasn't run by a banana republic-style strongman seeking to govern via coercion rather than through the use of the actual levers of government.
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The fear of Trump sent the Democratic party into a proverbial tailspin. It's hard to believe that something that damning, not confidential and not limited by a court case wouldn't have been released.
 
ZenMode said:
What does seem to be true is that Russia held back the information that they believed they could leverage IF Hillary won, while releasing everything else they hoped would help Trump/hurt Hillary.
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Assuming that is true (and it appears to be the case subject to uncertainty about what they hacked but held back versus what they manufactured and leaked via other means), does this make anyone wonder what the Russians held back to leverage over Trump?
 
ZenMode said:
The fear of Trump sent the Democratic party into a proverbial tailspin. It's hard to believe that something that damning, not confidential and not limited by a court case wouldn't have been released.
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Well they didn't prosecute him day 1 of Biden's tenure either. They moved too slow , in my opinion, but whether Dems have not shown a willingness to stretch laws/break norms in the way Trump/MAGA has.

Its not surprising that they didn't release any Trump specific info (I think they should have) and still don't respond in kind to Trump.
 
nycfan said:
Assuming that is true (and it appears to be the case subject to uncertainty about what they hacked but held back versus what they manufactured and leaked via other means), does this make anyone wonder what the Russians held back to leverage over Trump?
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Russia may have held back info on Trump, if it existed. It seems that they were more concerned, not surprisingly, about a Hillary win. I think most people were expecting a Hillary win.
 
I don’t know why, but shit like this always makes me think back to the infamous Zelenskyy/trump meeting at the WH. When it went off the rails Vance said something to the effect that Zelenskyy was trying this issue in the media. It was obvious then what Vance was doing because that’s been trump’s strategy for the entirety of his political career. They try their enemies in the public sphere with dubious claims because the vast majority of Americans have very little legal knowledge (me).

They’ve thrown a bunch of bullshit out there again that the media has to sift through and spend time and resources explaining and refuting. There never seems to be a long lasting political price paid for this obvious so they continue to do it over and over again.

I agree with the poster(s) mentioning just how much is being thrown out all at once right now. There has to be something really bad for trump and/or his buddies.

I’m going to mention this again. Magats are edgelords. They don’t need Obama, Hillary, Biden, et. al. locked up. It’s the anticipation that get’s them off. That and they’re just used to most everything in their sad little lives being disappointments.
 
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thebruinbleedstarheelblue said:
Well they didn't prosecute him day 1 of Biden's tenure either. They moved too slow , in my opinion, but whether Dems have not shown a willingness to stretch laws/break norms in the way Trump/MAGA has.

Its not surprising that they didn't release any Trump specific info (I think they should have) and still don't respond in kind to Trump.
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Is releasing Intel on Russian election interference really stretching the law? They'd basically be doing what DNI is doing now and nobody seems overly concerned about the legality of it. It's viewed as necessary transparency...which we need more of.
 
ZenMode said:
Is releasing Intel on Russian election interference really stretching the law? They'd basically be doing what DNI is doing now and nobody seems overly concerned about the legality of it. It's viewed as necessary transparency...which we need more of.
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No, because Russia did try to interfere and Team Trump was in communication with them and open to the help...even if not well coordinated.
 
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