The whole thing started long before 10/7.That’s kind of crazy to say in totality. The whole thing started with 10/7.
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The whole thing started long before 10/7.That’s kind of crazy to say in totality. The whole thing started with 10/7.
how many of them do we have in DC?Netanyayu and Hamas are both war mongering fucks
Elected Officials or Defense contractor Lobbyists? lolhow many of them do we have in DC?
Didn't Israel consider Hamas a terror group prior to 10/7? If so, then why continue to fund them? It would be similar to the US paying the Alqaeda to "keep the peace" and then act shocked when they commit a violent act. Instead of funding them, they could have allowed the Palestinians to have proper elections and Hamas would have been removed from power. But again, Netanyahu didn't want that. He wanted to continue to feed the wild pitbull and wait for it to attack.Israel was paying Hamas to essentially keep the peace and not do anything stupid. Hamas couldn't even do that right. Israel probably would have tolerated a suicide bombing or continued rocket attacks with limited reprisals, but with something the scale of 10/7 there was no way that Israel could do anything other than a major response.
There are two known reasons that Israel funded Hamas prior to 10/7:Didn't Israel consider Hamas a terror group prior to 10/7? If so, then why continue to fund them? It would be similar to the US paying the Alqaeda to "keep the peace" and then act shocked when they commit a violent act. Instead of funding them, they could have allowed the Palestinians to have proper elections and Hamas would have been removed from power. But again, Netanyahu didn't want that. He wanted to continue to feed the wild pitbull and wait for it to attack.
Some are dumb for sure but most are just bad people.I wish I was dumb enough to be MAGA. Must just be such a simpler existence
It’s not. He just wants them to get the hell out of Gaza. After that, he doesn’t give a shit where they go. And he sure as shit isn’t going to chip in to help them move or build this new utopia that some on this board think is going to just spring out of the desert.Exactly the details matter, I really doubt that trump's plan is to build them nice houses when they are resettled.
What do you expect an organization that you consider a terrorist group to do when you fund them and at the same time have them trapped in an open air prison?There are two known reasons that Israel funded Hamas prior to 10/7:
1. Keep the Palestinians divided by fostering competition between Hamas and the PLO.
2. Keep Hamas from doing anything stupid.
You can argue that these reasons were misguided or naive, but there is no scenario in which Hamas was paid by Israel to attack Israel. Also pretty bold of you to assume that Hamas would have been removed from power by the very people that overwhelmingly elected them and put them in power in the first place.
And 10/7 doesn’t happen without 10/6 and everything before that.To argue that 10/8 happens without 10/7 is peak head-in-the-sand mindset. I agree, no sense to engage any further with that kind of revisionist lunacy.
war hawksElected Officials or Defense contractor Lobbyists? lol
The whole thing started long before 10/7.
Open-air prison? Prior to 10/7 Israel didn't control all of Gaza's borders. Access into Israel was controlled, but what about Egypt?What do you expect an organization that you consider a terrorist group to do when you fund them and at the same time have them trapped in an open air prison?
Also, the last elections happened nearly 20 years ago. Half the population wasn't even born. It's not a bold chance to think the population has changed it's mind, especially when Hamas had reverted to its old ways and instead of the promises it gives. Why do we have elections every 2 years here? Should we assume that people won't change their views because they voted a certain way in a previous election?
What major event happened on 10/6? I'm being charitable and assuming that you haven't had any access to any sort of media for the past several years and are just horrifically uninformed.And 10/7 doesn’t happen without 10/6 and everything before that.
Are you an actual idiot? Or just trolling?
I'm surprised there haven't been any attacks already given the support we've given Israel during this war. At least we have a robust FBI, CIA, and Federal law enforcement infrastructure that can help protect us from terrorists that want to do us harm. What's that? Presidents Musk and Trump have absolutely gutted those agencies? Get ready.If Trump were to do anything to "take over Gaza" or "move the Palestinians out" lets not act surprised when there's a major terrorist attack on US soil.
If you know not to poke a hornets nest and you poke it anyway, don't blame the hornets.
I'm surprised there haven't been any attacks already given the support we've given Israel during this war. At least we have a robust FBI, CIA, and Federal law enforcement infrastructure that can help protect us from terrorists that want to do us harm. What's that? Presidents Musk and Trump have absolutely gutted those agencies? Get ready.
What about the 200+ Palestinians that were killed in the months leading to 10/7? Or does it all have to happen in 1 day for it to count to you?What major event happened on 10/6? I'm being charitable and assuming that you haven't had any access to any sort of media for the past several years and are just horrifically uninformed.
It is a shame that forebearance and patience was in very short supply on 10/7. Then those 20,000 kids would still be alive.I'm surprised too.
There's been many times I've been thinking about this issue and just been sort of flabbergasted by the forebearance and patience of the Palestinian people.
If my son was one of the 20,000 kids killed by the IDF, I'd absolutely strap a bomb to myself and try to take some of the MFers out with me
You're a firefighter. Did you hear about the Ghost Ship fire in Oakland? 36 people died and others were injured. It was a complex series of events that led up to it, but as I recall from a detailed news report I read a few years ago, here were some of the factors:What major event happened on 10/6? I'm being charitable and assuming that you haven't had any access to any sort of media for the past several years and are just horrifically uninformed.
I think that most people can agree that skirmishes that result in a few fatalities here and there over a period of several months in a region that has experienced intermittent conflict for generations are expected. A major attack that kills over 1,200 people in one day and results in 200+ others being held hostage is a massive escalation of hostilities. Sort of why no one expected us to invade Afghanistan after the 1993 WTC bombing but no one was surprised at all when we invaded after 9/11.What about the 200+ Palestinians that were killed in the months leading to 10/7? Or does it all have to happen in 1 day for it to count to you?