Trump47 Cabinet Picks & First 100 Days Agenda

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Thee Obama admin is before your time? lol

You cannot seriously pretend like you don't know that Republicans have traditionally been very hostile to the government seeking to impose better health outcomes on Americans by banning or more tightly regulating the things that contribute to our negative health outcomes - processed foods, sugary foods and drinks, smoking, alcohol, etc. Hell, it isn't even remotely coherent with the Musk/Ramaswamy wing of Trump's coalition that claims to support aggressively reducing government regulation. Which side of the political aisle do you really think the large corporate food manufacturers in our country have been aligned with?

Anyway I truly hope RFK and Trump try to get a bunch of unhealthy processed foods off of our shelves. It's a win-win. It will be good for health outcomes, and the public will absolutely hate it. Unfortunately, what is more likely to happen is that RFK will go after niche food additives that don't appear to cause any harm to anyone, and claim to be making us all healthier while ignoring the larger issues (most centrally, as a country we buy and eat too many calorie-dense, nutrient-light foods and don't exercise enough).
Yes, Obama was elected for the first time when I was 18 years old and I didn’t follow politics half as close as I do now. I gave exactly zero thought to whatever Michelle Obama said about healthy school lunches.

Agree that getting the unhealthy processed foods off the shelves, or at least cleaned up incrementally with less dyes etc, would be a win for all.

Obviously the answer to what will make America healthier is *both* diet and exercise. No argument from me that exercise is a big component too. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t serious opportunity to improve the ingredients we allow in our foods.
 
It would be nice to considerably tamp down on civilian access to Assault weapons-or just bullets
 
Yes, Obama was elected for the first time when I was 18 years old and I didn’t follow politics half as close as I do now. I gave exactly zero thought to whatever Michelle Obama said about healthy school lunches.

Agree that getting the unhealthy processed foods off the shelves, or at least cleaned up incrementally with less dyes etc, would be a win for all.

Obviously the answer to what will make America healthier is *both* diet and exercise. No argument from me that exercise is a big component too. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t serious opportunity to improve the ingredients we allow in our foods.
To catch you up - Michelle Obama led a campaign for healthier school lunches and the Right was very opposed!

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I must have missed the issue with artificial food coloring, is that a major issue? I’ve long viewed the biggest issue with processed grocery store food to be the amount of sugar/corn syrup. Fast food products no doubt have factors beyon that,
 
Cleaner ingredients isn't controversial per se, it's just the last time we tried it, you all pretty much rioted.
It is controversial, because there is no definition of "Cleaner". Just like there are no "Super" foods and "Detoxing" is not a thing.

Just like there's no definition of "organic" which has morphed into nothing more than marketing.

And don't get me started on all of the fake protective agencies, like the Non-GMO project that labeled salt as GMO free. Or the Dolphin safe tuna whose primary methodology for safety is to ask the captain if he caught a dolphin and threw it back.

I completely agree that the food industry needs to improve. Little things like not letting the sugar industry lobby the FDA to double the recommended daily intake of sugar, which was already too high.

There are things that can be done to improve the average person's food intake, which should reasonable translate into a healthier population and less medical cost. But those are not going to happen with an idiot like the orange dictator and his piss boy RFK in charge.
 
Remember the food pyramid from the ‘60’s, ‘70’s, and ‘80’s?

That was supposedly healthy eating.

Special K cereal and Raisin Bran were supposedly healthy eating.

When I was 13 years-old, I went on one of my big growth spurts…..from about 4’1” to 4’5”…..I was working out 6 days a week, swimming ridiculous yardage, eating like a horse…..and I couldn’t add muscle or size…..I was getting faster because I was swimming better, more technically sound….

My coach and Mom hit on the nutritional goldmine of a HUGE bowl of Total Cereal with 3 bananas in it AND a milkshake with 2 raw eggs, about a half-gallon of Breyer’s Ice Cream, and enough milk to fill a blender. That was breakfast.

Nutrition in the 20th Century was the Dark Ages.
 
Well, unless Bernie is just trolling them (and I hope he is), Bernie and Josh Hawley seem to be on the same page with respect to domestic policy.

It cannot be said enough how idiotic a 10% cap on credit card interest rates would be. Credit card interest rates are set by one of the most competitive markets in the world. The interest rates are as high as necessary to cover losses from nonpayment.
10% cap on credit cards is one of the dumbest proposals ever. It’s like the people who think student loans should be interest free. Only way to achieve that is a massive government subsidy or else no one is actually going to lend on those terms.
 
10% cap on credit cards is one of the dumbest proposals ever. It’s like the people who think student loans should be interest free. Only way to achieve that is a massive government subsidy or else no one is actually going to lend on those terms.
Agree. Only people with great credit will be issued cards. This proposal will dramatically reduce the public’s access to credit.
 
Might be true but that’s before my time, so it wasn’t me that was rioting about it. I support anyone who tries to help the chronic disease epidemic in America. It’s one of the most worthy causes government could take, IMO.
You know that chronic epidemic is not a thing ,don't you? What disease, no matter how poorly defined, do you mean?
 
You know that chronic epidemic is not a thing ,don't you? What disease, no matter how poorly defined, do you mean?
Huh?

Cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer, depression. Let’s start with the first two since the causes of the latter two are more unknown and more controversial.

This quote is straight from the CDC website which I will link below: “Chronic diseases such as heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are the leading causes of death and disability in the United States. They are also leading drivers of the nation's $4.5 trillion in annual health care costs.123

Link: About Chronic Diseases
 
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Huh?

Cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer. Let’s start with the first two since the causes of cancer are more unknown and more controversial.
Those are chronic diseases ,not epidemics. Epidemic diseases are contagious.

What do you think can be done differently than has been being done for decades? It's not like there hasn't been steady progress in treatment of all three. We've addressed environmental hazards, tobacco use, alcohol use, improper nutrition, better surgical treatments and better medications and have national and international foundations focused on all three. How exactly are crackpots who know next to nothing about any of these going to reinvent the wheel?
 
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“… Johnson would put forth what's known as a "concurrent resolution" that would call for both the House and the Senate to adjourn, which the House would then approve. At that point, it would no longer matter if the Senate was unable to muster a majority to go into recess. Trump would simply cite Article 2, Section 3 and direct both chambers to adjourn — perhaps for a very long time.

… Johnson, however, surely doesn't care about such niceties. What matters is simply whether he can get 218 votes to back him up. The only piece of potentially good news in all this is that, thanks to the anarchic House GOP caucus, Johnson has labored mightily to cobble together majorities in the past and often failed.

That task will be as tough as ever given his extremely narrow majority.

But Republicans understand very well that parliamentary maneuvering seldom matters to voters, so on this occasion, the speaker conceivably could keep his coalition together — especially considering the possibility that well-funded primary challengers could be sicced on Republicans who don’t toe the line.

That leaves only the Supreme Court, which clamped down on recess appointments once before. But that ruling came down when Barack Obama was president. The court's far-right supermajority, which has enabled Trump time and again, would likely have little problem finding a facile way to sanction such appointments with a Republican in charge.

It's still possible none of this comes to pass.

The Senate could, for instance, retain a fig-leaf version of its right to vet nominees by simply rubber-stamping Trump's picks, no matter how odious or unqualified. It looks like Thune will be able to spare three votes in the Senate, after all.

But even if a few Republican senators stand up for themselves and resist Trump's recess appointments scheme, no one should assume Mike Johnson would do the same. And if he caves, a cornerstone of our democracy will crumble with him.”



 
Look! We’re not even two weeks into having Trump 2.0 and we’ve already got the board Pubs agreeing with us about how ridiculously stupid Trump and Tom Cotton’s proposal- boosted by Bernie Sanders- to cap credit card interests at 10%. That’s #bipartisanship baby!

When the far left and the far right agree on anything, it’s probably a bad proposal.
 
Those are chronic diseases ,not epidemics. Epidemic diseases are contagious.

What do you think can be done differently than has been being done for decades? It's not like there hasn't been steady progress in treatment of all three. We've addressed environmental hazards, tobacco use, alcohol use, improper nutrition, better surgical treatments and better medications and have national and international foundations focused on all three. How exactly are crackpots who know next to nothing about any of these going to reinvent the wheel?
If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.
 
If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.
The reality is that things like this are an uphill battle because of corporate lobbyists.





 
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If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.
No shit, sherlock.

2012. Piece of advice. Finesse is one of the most intelligent, and oldest, people here. I come from a political household, read the newspaper every morning growing up, and took a class on the 1990 N.C. senate election in fifth grade. And I can say, definitively, that finesse understands politics on a level far beyond my own. Listen to what he is saying because, right now, he is running circles around you and it's awkward to watch.
 
If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.
Name them. I'll bet all of them are about ignoring medical advice. Are you suggesting a nanny state where we force people to eat and exercise "properly" while still supporting people who celebrate the brain deads who reject vaccines.? Are you even aware that theories about proper nutrition are almost as common as versions of the Bible (3000) or Christian denominations (45,000) and about as controversial?
 
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