Trump47 Cabinet Picks & First 100 Days Agenda

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DiehardHeelFan said:
It’s not a f’ing mandate.
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I was joking dude, relax.

Make no mistake, the Democrats should be embarrassed that they lost to a 78 year old Donald Trump and they should be doing some serious self-reflection about how out of touch they are with working class voters.

But I know it wasn’t a landslide lol. Our political climate is way too polarized right now for any kind of true landslide. Trump did win every state that was in play. But it wasn’t some Reagan-esque landslide.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
I was joking dude, relax.

Make no mistake, the Democrats should be embarrassed that they lost to a 78 year old Donald Trump and they should be doing some serious self-reflection about how out of touch they are with working class voters.

But I know it wasn’t a landslide lol. Our political climate is way too polarized right now for any kind of true landslide. Trump did win every state that was in play. But it wasn’t some Reagan-esque landslide.
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You voted for a 78 year old Trump so that’s your cross to bear.
 
Donald Trump being 78 years old is quite literally the absolute least of why he was, and will once again likely be (obligatory “though I hope I’m wrong!”) a shit president.
 
CFordUNC said:
Donald Trump being 78 years old is quite literally the absolute least of why he was, and will once again likely be (obligatory “though I hope I’m wrong!”) a shit president.
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It will beyond shocking..It will pass in two years We shall see how much damage is permanent???
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
I was joking dude, relax.

Make no mistake, the Democrats should be embarrassed that they lost to a 78 year old Donald Trump and they should be doing some serious self-reflection about how out of touch they are with working class voters.

But I know it wasn’t a landslide lol. Our political climate is way too polarized right now for any kind of true landslide. Trump did win every state that was in play. But it wasn’t some Reagan-esque landslide.
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Anytime a party loses they need to reflect. But let's be serious and honest here. The only reason a scumbag criminal fraud like Trump was elected is that the majority of voters, and citizens, are very dumb at least on actual policy and causation. They voted Trump because of a spike in inflation. Nothing more and nothing less. A little add on was the Dems complete lack of attention and presence at the border, and Trump and team and far right media and radio making it sound like we are under siege and occupied by foreign criminals.

Reagan, Obama, you name the President, would have lost re-election when the working class lost a quarter of their purchasing power.

In fact, I believe that many women that were outraged over abortion, still voted for Trump because they are struggling to feed their kids. And that was the #1 voter issue.

If there was any screwup, it was putting the VP on the ticket, making it very hard to distance from Biden's inflation (no Biden did not cause it, but it was on his watch, and that is what voters judge on.) Not only was it nearly impossible to distance herself, she would have had to stab Biden in the back to do so, she wouldn't and it probably wouldn't have worked anyway. So it all comes back to Biden (and Jill) for not bowing out BEFORE the primaries. when he was obviously fading fast.

There is no mandate, any more so than any other President that has won. MAGA is feeling it because they also won the popular vote this time which the old Pub party rarely did. Dems almost always win both the popular vote and electors, often winning the popular vote when losing the office -- at least the past few decades.
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
Anytime a party loses they need to reflect. But let's be serious an honest here. The only reason a scumbag criminal fraud like Trump was elected is thar the majority of voters, and citizens, are very dumb at least on actual policy. They voted Trump because of a spike in inflation. Nothing more and nothing less. A little add on was the Dems complete lack of attention and presence at the border, and Trump and team and far right media and radio making it sound like we are under siege and occupied by foreign criminals.

Reagan, Obama, you name the President, would have lost re-election when the working class lost a quarter of their purchasing power.

In fact, I believe that many women that were outraged over abortion, still voted for Trump because they are struggling to feed their kids. And that was the #1 voter issue.

If there was any screwup, it was putting the VP on the ticket, making it very hard to distance from Biden's inflation (no Biden did not cause it, but it was on his watch, and that is what voters judge on. Not only was it nearly impossible to distance herself, she would gave had to stab Biden in the back to do so, she wouldn't and it probably wouldn't have worked anyway. So it all comes back to Biden (and Jill) for not bowing out BEFORE the primaries. when he was obviously fading fast.

There is no mandate, any more so than any other President that has won. MAGA is feeling it because they also win the popular vote this time which the old Pub party rarely did. Dems almost always win both the popular vote and electors, often winning the popular vote when losing the office -- at least the past few decades.
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Yep, all of this. Democrats were left holding the inflation and incumbency bag in a year where every other developed democracy around the globe has seen anti-incumbent backlash because of inflation. There is really nothing else to read into the election other than that. One can certainly sift through data and try to figure out where and how Democrats lost on the margins, but ultimately it doesn’t matter, because of inflation and incumbency.

Also, Donald Trump did not win the presidency for a second time because the Democrats did anything majorly wrong politically or ideologically per se. He won the presidency because 74 million Americans decided that they preferred his brand of incompetent, chaotic, corrupt governance- nothing more and nothing less. And despite all of that, his win was so razor thin narrow that he couldn’t even drag all of the other downballot Republicans across the finish line behind him. The damage that a second Trump presidency is going to do to the Republican party, who will have to face the electorate in 2026 and 2028 and beyond without Donald Trump on the ballot for the first time in over a decade, is going to completely crater the party. People think that the general American electorate is stupid, and maybe it is, but when Joe Working Class and Jane Middle Class are staring down the barrel of 10% inflation, 12% mortgages, a tanked economy that has no agricultural, construction, or service industry workers, and kids dying from preventable diseases, there is going to be backlash. I think people are making a mistake believing that low propensity voters are inherently Republican voters.
 
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superrific said:
They can't possibly confirm him and retain any self-respect whatsoever. Talk about a historic abdication of responsibility. Gaetz wouldn't just be the worst AG ever. He wouldn't be the 2024 White Sox of AGs. He would be a junior high baseball team trying to compete in MLB bad. And yes, cue the jokes.
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Since when do Republicans give a shit about self-respect?
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
Anytime a party loses they need to reflect. But let's be serious and honest here. The only reason a scumbag criminal fraud like Trump was elected is that the majority of voters, and citizens, are very dumb at least on actual policy and causation. They voted Trump because of a spike in inflation. Nothing more and nothing less. A little add on was the Dems complete lack of attention and presence at the border, and Trump and team and far right media and radio making it sound like we are under siege and occupied by foreign criminals.

Reagan, Obama, you name the President, would have lost re-election when the working class lost a quarter of their purchasing power.

In fact, I believe that many women that were outraged over abortion, still voted for Trump because they are struggling to feed their kids. And that was the #1 voter issue.

If there was any screwup, it was putting the VP on the ticket, making it very hard to distance from Biden's inflation (no Biden did not cause it, but it was on his watch, and that is what voters judge on.) Not only was it nearly impossible to distance herself, she would have had to stab Biden in the back to do so, she wouldn't and it probably wouldn't have worked anyway. So it all comes back to Biden (and Jill) for not bowing out BEFORE the primaries. when he was obviously fading fast.

There is no mandate, any more so than any other President that has won. MAGA is feeling it because they also won the popular vote this time which the old Pub party rarely did. Dems almost always win both the popular vote and electors, often winning the popular vote when losing the office -- at least the past few decades.
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You’re right that inflation was huge but we had people on this very board acting like inflation and prices were no longer an issue because the year over year inflation rate had normalized - ignoring the fact that prices had gone up 25% cumulatively in a 3 year span or whatever it was.

It was always going to be inflation and immigration if the republicans won. And it was always going to be abortion if the democrats won.

But when you lose a tight election, as someone on the other side who is open to splitting my tickets, it makes me hope the Democrats will at least give some consideration to no longer dying on certain hills that are so absurd, like men playing in women’s sports, illegal immigrants being good because they perform our tough labor, etc.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
You’re right that inflation was huge but we had people on this very board acting like inflation and prices were no longer an issue because the year over year inflation rate had normalized - ignoring the fact that prices had gone up 25% cumulatively in a 3 year span or whatever it was.

It was always going to be inflation and immigration if the republicans won. And it was always going to be abortion if the democrats won.

But when you lose a tight election, as someone on the other side who is open to splitting my tickets, it makes me hope the Democrats will at least give some consideration to no longer dying on certain hills that are so absurd, like men playing in women’s sports, illegal immigrants being good because they perform our tough labor, etc.
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You’ve been told this a number of times, but Democrats aren’t running on those issues. Those are all made up Republican talking points.

Find a single example of a Democrat actively campaigning on support for men playing in women’s sports.
 
EyeballKid said:
That’s what freedom’s all about. You’re free to eat healthy or not—there are plenty of options, particularly for those with the money to pay for organic foods. And you’re free to exercise as much or as little as you’d like.

If you’re suggesting we need governmental intervention to promote healthy eating options and exercise, or that we need to somehow limit people’s freedom of choice—well, that seems a bit hypocritical coming from someone on the right, doesn’t it?
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Agree about the pubs hypocrisy.

But, organic is little more than marketing now.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
No, I don’t think it’s hypocritical to think that it’s a worthy goal of government help keep harmful ingredients out of our food.
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It's hypocritical to preach about small government, reducing regulations, staying out of peoples lives, and reducing government cost then turing around and proposing something that requires increased regulation, taking people's choice, increasing government scope and increasing spending.

Something the pubs love to do.
 
UNCatTech said:
It's hypocritical to preach about small government, reducing regulations, staying out of peoples lives, and reducing government cost then turing around and proposing something that requires increased regulation, taking people's choice, increasing government scope and increasing spending.

Something the pubs love to do.
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Disagree. Just because you think government’s role should be limited doesn’t mean you have to think government’s role should be zero.
 
It's a bad look when you don't announce Opposites Day. This couldn't be more directly contradictory.

Do you have a port were you can just download what you're supposed to think or do you have to log in and learn it? I don't care except as a point of curiosity. I can't help but wonder why these messages are do blatantly cynical and was trying to guess if was input or interpretation.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Disagree. Just because you think government’s role should be limited doesn’t mean you have to think government’s role should be zero.
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I didn't say anything about zero.

This is a considerable difference between limited government and controlling American's diets.

But we are used to this. Same limited government people are the ones whinning about the government not helping in so many other areas of life.

The right is only limited government when it fits their worldview. They have no issue with big government programs if it fits their worldview.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
You’re right that inflation was huge but we had people on this very board acting like inflation and prices were no longer an issue because the year over year inflation rate had normalized - ignoring the fact that prices had gone up 25% cumulatively in a 3 year span or whatever it was.

It was always going to be inflation and immigration if the republicans won. And it was always going to be abortion if the democrats won.

But when you lose a tight election, as someone on the other side who is open to splitting my tickets, it makes me hope the Democrats will at least give some consideration to no longer dying on certain hills that are so absurd, like men playing in women’s sports, illegal immigrants being good because they perform our tough labor, etc.
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And why does it make you hope such things? You've made it patently clear that you will not vote for a Democrat for national office. Hell, half the things you say you want now are either current or past Dem policies that you refused to vote for.
 
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