Trump47 Cabinet Picks & First 100 Days Agenda

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wmheel1287 said:
American voters don't think. Period. They don't. Pretending they do is a fool's errand. We are a nation of absolute morons in most every way.
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Keep thinking that way as that's a sure fire way to regain power.

The US is simply following the Western World's general rejection of governments ruled by Elites with their excessive regulations, wokeness, nanny state rule making, green agenda and open borders. You see this change throughout Western Europe and Canada. A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID. Normal people of the World Unite!
 
Ramrouser said:
Keep thinking that way as that's a sure fire way to regain power.

The US is simply following the Western World's general rejection of governments ruled by Elites with their excessive regulations, wokeness, nanny state rule making, green agenda and open borders. You see this change throughout Western Europe and Canada. A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID. Normal people of the World Unite!
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So, trump, musk, and vivek are not elites?

You're a lawyer that lives in Buckhead, one of the priciest most affluent parts of Atlanta, you don't believe that the average Joe sees you as elite?

I believe you actually proved @wmheel1287 point about voters not thinking.
 
Ramrouser said:
Keep thinking that way as that's a sure fire way to regain power.

The US is simply following the Western World's general rejection of governments ruled by Elites with their excessive regulations, wokeness, nanny state rule making, green agenda and open borders. You see this change throughout Western Europe and Canada. A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID. Normal people of the World Unite!
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100%. They even made a MOVIE about this more than a decade ago. How could Dems be so stupid?

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You know I'm so torn when it comes to the "Fuck around and find out" mentality.

But shit like this: "A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID." really does make one consider how it would be nice to have just had a government that did nothing, so we could see the results.

Maybe next pandemic our government will have learned and will just let people die and let hospitals and our medical system be overwhelmed.

Then maybe people would see that the 99.9% survival rate that some like to throw around was highly influenced by our practices. If we had simply carried on as usual, like so many claim they wanted, the survival rate would not have been as high. But some just don't seem to realize that.

It reminds me of all the people that claimed that Y2K amounted to nothing, not realizing the millions of hours that went into fixing things so that we didn't see a collapse. They seem to think that it was some kind of hoax.
 
Ramrouser said:
Keep thinking that way as that's a sure fire way to regain power.

The US is simply following the Western World's general rejection of governments ruled by Elites with their excessive regulations, wokeness, nanny state rule making, green agenda and open borders. You see this change throughout Western Europe and Canada. A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID. Normal people of the World Unite!
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Yes because they’d rather be ruled by oligarchs. Oh wait, aren’t those people elite?
 
UNCatTech said:
You know I'm so torn when it comes to the "Fuck around and find out" mentality.

But shit like this: "A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID." really does make one consider how it would be nice to have just had a government that did nothing, so we could see the results.

Maybe next pandemic our government will have learned and will just let people die and let hospitals and our medical system be overwhelmed.

Then maybe people would see that the 99.9% survival rate that some like to throw around was highly influenced by our practices. If we had simply carried on as usual, like so many claim they wanted, the survival rate would not have been as high. But some just don't seem to realize that.

It reminds me of all the people that claimed that Y2K amounted to nothing, not realizing the millions of hours that went into fixing things so that we didn't see a collapse. They seem to think that it was some kind of hoax.
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And the survival rate wasn't the only and in some ways even the most pressing issue. I've relayed this anecdote before, but my aunt who I care for had a stroke during covid. I had to sit with her on a gurney by the nurses station for over 24 hours before they could even get her in one of those temporary rooms with a curtain because the hospital was so overwhelmed with covid cases. I can only imagine what it would have been like if we just left everything open. But as I predicted long ago on IC, like always MAGA would re-write what happened into a nothingburger.
 
Vivek is the living and breathing embodiment of the immigrant experience in the US. He's elite now but he worked for it.
Elon is a unicorn with an unbelievable work ethic who's the modern day Thomas Edison/Henry Ford. He doesn't even have a house as he routinely sleeps at his factories and businesses.
Trump is the billionaire common man who's spent time on construction sites his entire career and KNOWS HOW to talk and interact with working men and women.

As for Liberal Elites think of the way Kamala, John Kerry, and Trudeau speak and relate to ordinary "folks." I'm referring to the modern, metropolitan elite whose education and associations have opened doors to affluence and power without actually working for a living and creating anything of value. These are the individuals who have been running the governments and bureaucracies of the US, Canada and Europe.
 
Ramrouser said:
Vivek is the living and breathing embodiment of the immigrant experience in the US. He's elite now but he worked for it.
Elon is a unicorn with an unbelievable work ethic who's the modern day Thomas Edison/Henry Ford. He doesn't even have a house as he routinely sleeps at his factories and businesses.
Trump is the billionaire common man who's spent time on construction sites his entire career and KNOWS HOW to talk and interact with working men and women.

As for Liberal Elites think of the way Kamala, John Kerry, and Trudeau speak and relate to ordinary "folks." I'm referring to the modern, metropolitan elite whose education and associations have opened doors to affluence and power without actually working for a living and creating anything of value. These are the individuals who have been running the governments and bureaucracies of the US, Canada and Europe.
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Vivek was born in Cincinnati.

Seriously, did you know that?
 
Ramrouser said:
Vivek is the living and breathing embodiment of the immigrant experience in the US. He's elite now but he worked for it.
Elon is a unicorn with an unbelievable work ethic who's the modern day Thomas Edison/Henry Ford. He doesn't even have a house as he routinely sleeps at his factories and businesses.
Trump is the billionaire common man who's spent time on construction sites his entire career and KNOWS HOW to talk and interact with working men and women.

As for Liberal Elites think of the way Kamala, John Kerry, and Trudeau speak and relate to ordinary "folks." I'm referring to the modern, metropolitan elite whose education and associations have opened doors to affluence and power without actually working for a living and creating anything of value. These are the individuals who have been running the governments and bureaucracies of the US, Canada and Europe.
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You're (ostensibly, although I'm now leaning toward superific's doubts) a family lawyer in Atlanta. What possible understanding do you have of "ordinary folks"? What evidence do you have that Trump has "spent time on construction sites his entire career"? And what do you know about Elon's real property investments? Where Does Elon Musk Live? Inside the Properties of the World’s Richest Man

I literally cannot imagine how someone like you could support this administration. Unless your entire net income is dependent on someone whose career could potentially be determined by Trump's reelection, of course.
 
UNCatTech said:
You know I'm so torn when it comes to the "Fuck around and find out" mentality.

But shit like this: "A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID." really does make one consider how it would be nice to have just had a government that did nothing, so we could see the results.

Maybe next pandemic our government will have learned and will just let people die and let hospitals and our medical system be overwhelmed.

Then maybe people would see that the 99.9% survival rate that some like to throw around was highly influenced by our practices. If we had simply carried on as usual, like so many claim they wanted, the survival rate would not have been as high. But some just don't seem to realize that.

It reminds me of all the people that claimed that Y2K amounted to nothing, not realizing the millions of hours that went into fixing things so that we didn't see a collapse. They seem to think that it was some kind of hoax.
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This is another situation where two things can be true at the same time. One truth, likely based on what we saw happening in Italy early in the pandemic, is that there was overreaction on the part of federal, state and local governments. Overreaction in the form of unnecessary lockdowns in areas where it wasn't necessary. Overreaction in the form of constructing large, temporary hospital expansions with the expectation of mass hospitalizations that never came to fruition. Overreaction in the form of discharging military personnel who wouldn't get the vaccine. The big one, at least for me, was the federal government's attempt to use OSHA to force 80 million Americans to get vaccinated.

The other truth is that some lives were possibly saved by the measures taken. Were a lot of lives saved? Probably not because Covid ended up not being nearly as deadly as we thought, but I think social distancing, lockdowns, etc probably saved some lives that may have been lost to select hospitals being overwhelmed.

Hopefully, we learned from the mistakes of Covid and will handle the next dangerous pandemic a little better.
 
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lawtig02 said:
You're (ostensibly, although I'm now leaning toward superific's doubts) a family lawyer in Atlanta. What possible understanding do you have of "ordinary folks"? What evidence do you have that Trump has "spent time on construction sites his entire career"? And what do you know about Elon's real property investments? Where Does Elon Musk Live? Inside the Properties of the World’s Richest Man

I literally cannot imagine how someone like you could support this administration. Unless your entire net income is dependent on someone whose career could potentially be determined by Trump's reelection, of course.
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My success has never been determined by which Administration is in charge of the Federal government. That's LOSER mentality. I live in a deep blue neighborhood and City (with very often TERRIBLE Mayors); a Red(ish) State (with good Governors) and a Federal government that goes back and forth between Dem and R. You can make it work regardless who is in charge.
 
Ramrouser said:
Keep thinking that way as that's a sure fire way to regain power.

The US is simply following the Western World's general rejection of governments ruled by Elites with their excessive regulations, wokeness, nanny state rule making, green agenda and open borders. You see this change throughout Western Europe and Canada. A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID. Normal people of the World Unite!
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Meanwhile…

MAGA civil war breaks out over American "mediocrity" culture​



 
Ramrouser said:
My success has never been determined by which Administration is in charge of the Federal government. That's LOSER mentality. I live in a deep blue neighborhood and City (with very often TERRIBLE Mayors); a Red(ish) State (with good Governors) and a Federal government that goes back and forth between Dem and R. You can make it work regardless who is in charge.
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As long as your rainmaker is not in Leavenworth, right?
 
wmheel1287 said:
American voters don't think. Period. They don't. Pretending they do is a fool's errand. We are a nation of absolute morons in most every way.
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According to data from the U.S. Department of Education, around 54% of Americans read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level, meaning that a significant portion of the population reads at or below a 5th grade level.

Trump is likely included in that cohort which would explain his appeal to half the country.

As the great philosopher George Carlin once said, " Consider the average intelligence of Americans and then realize half are less intelligent than that"
 
ZenMode said:
This is another situation where two things can be true at the same time. One truth, likely based on what we saw happening in Italy early in the pandemic, is that there was overreaction on the part of federal, state and local governments. Overreaction in the form of unnecessary lockdowns in areas where it wasn't necessary. Overreaction in the form of constructing large, temporary hospital expansions with the expectation of mass hospitalizations that never came to fruition. Overreaction in the form of discharging military personnel who wouldn't get the vaccine. The big one, at least for me, was the federal government's attempt to use OSHA to force 80 million Americans to get vaccinated.

The other truth is that some lives were possibly saved by the measures taken. Were a lot of lives saved? Probably not because Covid ended up not being nearly as deadly as we thought, but I think social distancing, lockdowns, etc probably saved some lives that may have been lost to select hospitals being overwhelmed.

Hopefully, we learned from the mistakes of Covid and will handle the next dangerous pandemic a little better.
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Completely disagree.

Those who claim that nothing was necessary are not simply saying there was an overreaction, they claim, with hindsight, that we didn't need to do anything. Just treat it like we do the flu.

And I disagree that the actions that were taken didn't save many. How can you say definitively that people who are alive today would not have died had they not taken the precautions? You cannot. If you would like to, just call the families of those who refused the vaccine and then as they died, they made public statements that they wish they had taken it more seriously. Talk to those families about how "some lives were possibly saved".

It's also interesting how your wording declares where you stand. Using definitive words like "overreaction" when talking about the government and "possibly saved" when talking about the measures taken.

We will never know the results of the other path. But I guarantee you had the government done nothing and 20 million had died, all of those who after the fact want to declare that nothing was necessary would have been the same people whining about the government not doing enough had this been the chosen path.
 
Ramrouser said:
Keep thinking that way as that's a sure fire way to regain power.

The US is simply following the Western World's general rejection of governments ruled by Elites with their excessive regulations, wokeness, nanny state rule making, green agenda and open borders. You see this change throughout Western Europe and Canada. A lot of this is in reaction to the heavy handedness of these governments during COVID. Normal people of the World Unite!
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lmao, what a crock of steaming horseshit.

progressives won in both france and the uk this past summer. and leftist da silva won in brazil in a repudiation of bolsonaro and the far right.

what we're actually seeing a lot of now is a bunch of elections swinging the way of whichever party was NOT in power for the majority of covid.
 
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