Trump47 First Week & Beyond Catch-All

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there's three stupid things.......bipartisan politics. organized religions, and the people who argue about both of them. ive been guilty in the past for sure.
 
Ramrouser said:
Don't know what you're talking about. I've never expressed any anti gay opinions at any point in my discussions on this Board. I'm pro gay marriage and have a libertarian viewpoint on the vast majority of LGBTQ issues.
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no. i don't think so.

you might not be expressly anti gay marriage but you don't get to vote for and vociferously cheerlead this current iteration of the republican party the way that YOU do and then claim to be pro gay marriage.

gtfoh. you are not an ally in any way, shape or form.
 
Ramrouser said:
It's my opinion that the Bishop would have been more effective (from her perspective) to preach the message of Christ (love, compassion, empathy, etc.) without the lecture. Let him hear the message and let him connect the dots and perhaps, change his mind. No one (certainly not Trump) responds well to being lectured to and told what to do and what not do. Why not be a bit more subtle and less MSNBC.

As I have said, it was a religious service in the National Cathedral as part of the official Inauguration ceremony. I'm expressing an opinion that a lecture to POTUS in that setting is not appropriate for a Bishop presiding over an official setting.

She chose to lecture and nag POTUS and be a liberal hero for a day. That's her right I get it. Trump and his party, for their part, sat there and were respectful.
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A plea for mercy is a lecture? Interesting.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
there's three stupid things.......bipartisan politics. organized religions, and the people who argue about both of them. ive been guilty in the past for sure.
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Sincere question, then: any particular reason why you continue to grace us all with your presence on a message board that...primarily discusses politics with a heavy dose of religion? If you're so enlightened as to be above it all, what's your purpose for being here?
 
lawtig02 said:
A plea for mercy is a lecture? Interesting.
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It can be both. And as stated, if your sincere goal is mercy, better to save the lecture for another time. Maybe her goal was to disguise the lecture in a plea for mercy. If so, it appears as if she succeeded.
 
Callatoroy said:
It can be both. And as stated, if your sincere goal is mercy, better to save the lecture for another time. Maybe her goal was to disguise the lecture in a plea for mercy. If so, it appears as if she succeeded.
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I've asked another Christian poster this and now I'll ask you, too. How do you consider Jesus's own words to be "lecturing" in a negative connotation? As a person of Christian faith myself, that seems so antithetical to what I would believe that other Christians should/would feel. I'm not criticizing you- just trying to sincerely understand.

As I said to the other poster, do you not believe that if your political convictions are causing you to ignore your religious/spiritual convictions, perhaps it's time to take a long look in the mirror?
 
lawtig02 said:
Sounds more to me like a bunch of hit dogs hollering.
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Since this is a #HypocrisyFreeZone, and our right wing posters are never hypocritical in any way, I am certain that Franklin Graham delivering that same exact sermon would have caused equal consternation on the right! I just know it!
 
CFordUNC said:
Since this is a #HypocrisyFreeZone, and our right wing posters are never hypocritical in any way, I am certain that Franklin Graham delivering that same exact sermon would have caused equal consternation on the right!
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1. True.
2. I’m LOLing at the thought of FG delivering a message even remotely as true to the words of Jesus.
 
CFordUNC said:
Sincere question, then: any particular reason why you continue to grace us all with your presence on a message board that...primarily discusses politics with a heavy dose of religion? If you're so enlightened as to be above it all, what's your purpose for being here?
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duh to reassure myself of how enlightened i am.......and it amuses me. any more questions, sir?
 
OGtruthhurts said:
duh to reassure myself of how enlightened i am.......and it amuses me. any more questions, sir?
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Just one. Is there literally nothing else going for you that could replace this as a hobby? Surely someone as enlightened and sophisticated as you should have a myriad of hobbies available to you that would be more fulfilling and satiating than spending so much time reading and posting on a message board where the primary topics are something which you consider beneath you.
 
CFordUNC said:
Since this is a #HypocrisyFreeZone, and our right wing posters are never hypocritical in any way, I am certain that Franklin Graham delivering that same exact sermon would have caused equal consternation on the right! I just know it!
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I admire the passive aggressiveness. Franklin Graham's prayer was very much inappropriate in the same manner. Not sure how other righties feel about it.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
duh to reassure myself of how enlightened i am.......and it amuses me. any more questions, sir?
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I can get the amusement and you amuse me as well but if you need reassurance about anything, you really don't. You're missing the quality already.
 
Callatoroy said:
I admire the passive aggressiveness. Franklin Graham's prayer was very much inappropriate in the same manner. Not sure how other righties feel about it.
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But did Graham cite the actual words of Jesus Christ in his prayer? I don't believe that he did, which makes the comparison a moot point, IMO.
 
My question to our board right wingers is this: If you are fine with Trump offering mercy (pardons) to convicted insurrectionists, domestic terrorists, international drug dealers, and those who viciously assaulted Capitol and DC police officers- which is well within your right to have that view and it's well within his right as POTUS to exercise that power- then why is not okay for a Bishop to deliver a message- using Jesus Christ's very own words- of mercy for non-criminal immigrants and LGBTQ people, as well? The reason I'm hung up on this is because very, very, VERY few things about Trump or Trump-adjacent shock me anymore. Like, truly virtually nothing. This, however, has shocked me- the reaction by right wingers on this board and elsewhere to what should have been an uplifting sermon at best and an innocuous sermon at worst.

Would sincerely love to be educated on this and helped to understand the perspective. I want to spend the next 4 years trying to better understand my fellow countrymen and women of all stripes.
 
CFordUNC said:
Just one. Is there literally nothing else going for you that could replace this as a hobby? Surely someone as enlightened and sophisticated as you should have a myriad of hobbies available to you that would be more fulfilling and satiating than spending so much time reading and posting on a message board where the primary topics are something which you consider beneath you.
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nothing and no one is above me and nothing/no one is beneath me....my perspective is what separates me from the rest of our fucked up society. see you think you are better than the trumpsters whether morally, intellectually, or both. do you really think you are going to change their minds re trump etc? its the same ol pissing contests, not discussions. i ll let you know when a real discussion takes place.

so i retired at 40 and have a lot of interests. i enjoy messageboards....and sacrificing goats to my god. anything else?
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
You are one annoying little prick you know.
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WTF? You posted an analysis that was incomplete. You were doing so, presumably, to convince people that the pardon of Ulbrecht was justified. And thus you put your opinions out in public to be tested. It's not my fault you left out that exceedingly important part of the story.

It. is. OK. to. admit. you. were. wrong.
 
Only 48 hours in and Trump's presidency 2.0 is already an unmitigated disaster. We're light years ahead of schedule here, folks. So much for the "unity" crap he was spewing on Monday. What a f'ing mess.
 
4thgenheel said:
to be fair, i think that was zen, not rouser. but your overall point still stands.
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Yep and I said it was inappropriate, because of the power differential, for the federal government to "ask" a private business to remove posts.

I still believe that's true.
 
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