Trump47 Foreign Policy Catch-All | Vance in Munich

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“…President Putin even used my very strong campaign motto of ‘COMMON SENSE.’…”
 

Hegseth's Ukraine bombshell and Trump's Putin call leave NATO reeling​



“… State of play: Hegseth, who is attending his first meeting of NATO's defense ministers, made clear Wednesday that the following chips will now be "off the table" in peace talks, as a senior U.S. defense official stressed to Axios.

  1. NATO membership for Ukraine — a central source of tension with Russia promised by the alliance in 2008 — is not a "realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement," Hegseth said.
  2. U.S. troops will not be deployed to Ukraine to enforce postwar security guarantees.
  3. Any European peacekeepers sent to Ukraine should be deployed as part of a "non-NATO mission," meaning Article 5 — the alliance's bedrock principle of collective defense — should not protect them.
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  • In the Oval Office on Wednesday, Trump demurred when asked whether Ukraine was "an equal member" of the peace process: "I think they have to make peace," he said after a pause. "That was not a good war to go into."
Friction point: Most NATO allies vehemently reject the idea that Ukraine chose war with Russia, and have argued for years that peace talks should happen at a time and place of Ukraine's choosing.

… The intrigue: The European Union's top diplomat Kaja Kallas, who is attending Thursday's meetings along with Ukrainian defense minister Rustem Umerov, said the EU would continue supporting Ukraine if Kyiv refused to accept Trump's conditions….”
 
I know they don’t need a moron like me to tell them this, but I hope that all of our NATO and European allies are operating from this point forward with the understanding that they are going to need to go it alone as it pertains to common defense. The United States is essentially a NATO member in name only. The United States is very clearly preferring to align itself with an axis that includes Russia and China at the expense of call of our democratically inclined allies. As much as it sucks to say this, at this point, NATO members would be fools to share any intelligence with the United States. They would be better served faxing it directly to Vladimir Putin.
 
CFordUNC said:
I know they don’t need a moron like me to tell them this, but I hope that all of our NATO and European allies are operating from this point forward with the understanding that they are going to need to go it alone as it pertains to common defense. The United States is essentially a NATO member in name only. The United States is very clearly preferring to align itself with an axis that includes Russia and China at the expense of call of our democratically inclined allies. As much as it sucks to say this, at this point, NATO members would be fools to share any intelligence with the United States. They would be better served faxing it directly to Vladimir Putin.
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I think they're likely going a step further, and planning for a world order with the US as an overt enemy. That's not to say it'll happen, but the US can't be looked at as a good actor anymore, and the contingencies are undoubtedly afoot.
 
Healing said:
I think they're likely going a step further, and planning for a world order with the US as an overt enemy. That's not to say it'll happen, but the US can't be looked at as a good actor anymore, and the contingencies are undoubtedly afoot.
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Agreed. It’s sickening to even consider the possibility of a world where we are lumped in with the axis of evil that includes Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, etc. but we are perilously closer to it than we’ve ever been.
 
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