U.S. Budget Negotiations

[CFordUNC]

As you've surely seen, I have opinions on a number of topics but virtually never comment on federal budget bills. I have, until there's reason to believe otherwise, given up on Congress addressing what is the most pressing issue in front of them - the debt. It's not just congress kicking the can down the road. It is outright dereliction of duty.

Oh, I’ve surely seen, that’s for sure.

 

[nycfan]

 

[CFordUNC]

 

[nycfan]

 

[StrangePackage]

Will some journalist anywhere play these guys a clip of the same people saying the same stuff (that proved to be untrue) during Trump 1.0?

It goes back to Bush 2. At least.

 

[BillOfRights]

My understanding of the Medicaid changes is that you have to a) be working and b) if able, be actively trying to find work.

If true, what is the issue with that?

The fact that you ask this question shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[ChileG]

It goes back to Bush 2. At least.

Yes, but Trump nor his MAGA sycophants will accept those comparisons. Show that Trump and his cronies made the same claims before and said everyone else was wrong and then challenge them on their ridiculous claims. I would, anyway.

 

[JCTarheel82]

Extreme cowardice.

Fuck these invertebrates.

 

[BillOfRights]

FAFO

 

[Calheel]

My understanding of the Medicaid changes is that you have to a) be working and b) if able, be actively trying to find work.

If true, what is the issue with that?

Work requirements are an extreme paperwork burden -- one that has the effect and purpose of kicking millions off coverage. Republicans talk about cutting red tape for businesses, while simultaneously regulating the poor into oblivion with miles of red tape.

John Oliver explains the problem very well in this week's show:

 

[ZenMode]

Work requirements are an extreme paperwork burden -- one that has the effect and purpose of kicking millions off coverage. Republicans talk about cutting red tape for businesses, while simultaneously regulating the poor into oblivion with miles of red tape.

John Oliver explains the problem very well in this week's show:

If you are young, physically able and on the dole, yes, you need to be either working or actively looking for work and completing all necessary paperwork to stay on the dole. Tax payers aren't a non-profit charity.

 

[Paine]

If you are young, physically able and on the dole, yes, you need to be either working or actively looking for work and completing all necessary paperwork to stay on the dole. Tax payers aren't a non-profit charity.

You’re talking about Medicaid, right? Just so we’re clear, you think seeing a doctor when you’re broke is “the dole”?

 

[Calheel]

If you are young, physically able and on the dole, yes, you need to be either working or actively looking for work and completing all necessary paperwork to stay on the dole. Tax payers aren't a non-profit charity.

Please watch the John Oliver video. I started it at the relevant point. It is only about six minutes.

After you watch it, come back and report your thoughts and we can have a further discussion.

 

[ZenMode]

Please watch the John Oliver video. I started it at the relevant point. It is only about six minutes.

After you watch it, come back and report your thoughts and we can have a further discussion.

I watched it. The solution for old, non-tech savy people is not to remove ongoing requirements of eligibility.

The solution to too frequent verification requirements (and, yes, monthly might be too much for older people) is not to get rid of all requirements.

We can disagree on how much is the right amount, but surely you're aren't just saying "Once you're on, you're on for life", right?

 

[ZenMode]

You’re talking about Medicaid, right? Just so we’re clear, you think seeing a doctor when you’re broke is “the dole”?

Basically, by definition, yes:

Meaning of on the dole in English
If you are on the dole, you are receiving money from the government because you are unemployed: Half of the town's residents were on the dole.

Google Search

 

[Paine]

Basically, by definition, yes:

Meaning of on the dole in English
If you are on the dole, you are receiving money from the government because you are unemployed: Half of the town's residents were on the dole.

Google Search

Cool, thanks for confirming.

Medicaid isn’t unemployment insurance. It’s health coverage. You don’t get a check, you get a doctor’s appointment. So unless you think a cancer screening is a form of income, calling it “the dole” is just lazy moralizing dressed up as fiscal concern.

If you’re going to complain about taxpayer money, let’s talk about corporate tax breaks, not insulin for broke people.

 

[nycfan]

Massive claims he has enough votes to block passage but … we’ll see.

 

[nycfan]

Massive claims he has enough votes to block passage but … we’ll see.

 

[lawtig02]

Massive claims he has enough votes to block passage but … we’ll see.

Extremely hard to imagine Kentucky and other states can’t be bought off, but as you say, we’ll see.

 

[Calheel]

I watched it. The solution for old, non-tech savy people is not to remove ongoing requirements of eligibility.

The solution to too frequent verification requirements (and, yes, monthly might be too much for older people) is not to get rid of all requirements.

We can disagree on how much is the right amount, but surely you're aren't just saying "Once you're on, you're on for life", right?

Do you agree that we should cut regulations for businesses to reduce the paperwork burden?