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U.S. Budget Negotiations

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Paine said:
Cool, thanks for confirming.

Medicaid isn’t unemployment insurance. It’s health coverage. You don’t get a check, you get a doctor’s appointment. So unless you think a cancer screening is a form of income, calling it “the dole” is just lazy moralizing dressed up as fiscal concern.
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Paine said:
If you’re going to complain about taxpayer money, let’s talk about corporate tax breaks, not insulin for broke people.
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There are a lot of areas that government spending can be cut and revenue can be increased.

i'm not advocating get rid of all Medicaid or all corporate tax cuts or all subsidies. I'm saying we have to have some kind of ongoing eligibility requirements to stay on the dole receive taxpayer money. It can't just be "you're in the door, so you stay in for as long as you want". Yes, I think it should require some level of effort to continue to receive services/money at at taxpayer expense. It cannot be "you're in now, so you're in for life". Are there exceptions? Sure, but those people shouldn't be on Medicaid. They should be on some type of permanent disability.
 
ZenMode said:
There are a lot of areas that government spending can be cut and revenue can be increased.

i'm not advocating get rid of all Medicaid or all corporate tax cuts or all subsidies. I'm saying we have to have some kind of ongoing eligibility requirements to stay on the dole receive taxpayer money. It can't just be "you're in the door, so you stay in for as long as you want". Yes, I think it should require some level of effort to continue to receive services/money at at taxpayer expense. It cannot be "you're in now, so you're in for life". Are there exceptions? Sure, but those people shouldn't be on Medicaid. They should be on some type of permanent disability.
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Here’s the issue: this conversation always starts with poor people.

You say we need “some kind of ongoing eligibility requirements,” but that already exists. Have you ever been on Medicaid? Recipients are subject to regular income checks, re-enrollment processes, work requirements in some states, and mountains of paperwork that trip people up all the time. People get kicked off constantly for making a little too much one month or missing a form.

Meanwhile, no one’s making Lockheed Martin fill out quarterly means tests to keep their billions. Amazon isn’t getting its subsidies yanked because it didn’t “show effort.”

If you’re serious about waste, start at the top. It’s not the broke kid getting dental cleanings who’s bankrupting the country, it’s the rigged game where billionaires dodge taxes while everyone else fights over crumbs.

The fact that your first instinct is to scrutinize the poorest instead of the powerful gives the game away.
 
Calheel said:
Do you agree that we should cut regulations for businesses to reduce the paperwork burden?
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I'm not a small business owner, and I didn't see any specifics in the video about how much paperwork was required, to give an opinion. In general, all processes should be constantly reviewed and revisited to improve efficiency while still ensuring that the system and tax payers aren't being taken advantage of by individuals or businesses. There should be ongoing eligibility checks. When appropriate, there should be employment or employment seeking requirements.

It shouldn't...can't.... be easy.
 
Medicaid, Medicare, ACA and a Public Health Option could be consolidated to one Premium Health Entity. With multiple tiers of coverage and a minimal HC coverage, a bit like auto insurance.coverage. Medicaid, Medicare, ACA would save by eliminating redundant administration costs and confusing coverage.

But that would require *thinking,* planning, and work. No chance Congress is up to it, especially the GPT cohort.
 
Duke Mu said:
Medicaid, Medicare, ACA and a Public Health Option could be consolidated to one Premium Health Entity. With multiple tiers of coverage and a minimal HC coverage, a bit like auto insurance.coverage. Medicaid, Medicare, ACA would save by eliminating redundant administration costs and confusing coverage.

But that would require *thinking,* planning, and work. No chance Congress is up to it, especially the GPT cohort.
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Maybe somebody should come up with a universal Healthcare system that costs less and delivers better results with less red tape. We could call it "Medicare for All".
 
BillOfRights said:
Maybe somebody should come up with a universal Healthcare system that costs less and delivers better results with less red tape. We could call it "Medicare for All".
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In practice, Medicare is a mess: cumbersome and piecemeal... the non-seniors would hate it as the public option or universal HC paradigm. Medicare needs to be re-organized. Our subsidizing of private Medicare Advantage is the fastest rising Federal Health care expenditure. Medicare Advantage insurance companies are dropping and denying coverages (in the news re: the killing of the CEO of UnitedHealthCare.

MA takes advantage of the crazy and incoherent splitting of Medicare Parts A, B, D, G. You're going to need a scorecard. Medicare Advantage plans prey on seniors confused by Medicare structure, rules, and limits.
 
Paine said:
Here’s the issue: this conversation always starts with poor people.

You say we need “some kind of ongoing eligibility requirements,” but that already exists. Have you ever been on Medicaid? Recipients are subject to regular income checks, re-enrollment processes, work requirements in some states, and mountains of paperwork that trip people up all the time. People get kicked off constantly for making a little too much one month or missing a form.

Meanwhile, no one’s making Lockheed Martin fill out quarterly means tests to keep their billions. Amazon isn’t getting its subsidies yanked because it didn’t “show effort.”

If you’re serious about waste, start at the top. It’s not the broke kid getting dental cleanings who’s bankrupting the country, it’s the rigged game where billionaires dodge taxes while everyone else fights over crumbs.

The fact that your first instinct is to scrutinize the poorest instead of the powerful gives the game away.
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Duke Mu said:
In practice, Medicare is a mess: cumbersome and piecemeal... the non-seniors would hate it as the public option or universal HC paradigm. Medicare needs to be re-organized. Our subsidizing of private Medicare Advantage is the fastest rising Federal Health care expenditure. Medicare Advantage insurance companies are dropping and denying coverages (in the news re: the killing of the CEO of UnitedHealthCare.

MA takes advantage of the crazy and incoherent splitting of Medicare Parts A, B, D, G. You're going to need a scorecard. Medicare Advantage plans prey on seniors confused by Medicare structure, rules, and limits.
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Now do private insurance.


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I really wish this bill could be stopped, but as a backup, I wish I was a bankruptcy lawyer right now. Pubs have no idea what they're about to unleash.
 
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