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Medicaid Cuts Are Turning Into a Republican Battle Royal​

Lawmakers spar over how deeply and quickly to trim program, slowing passage of Trump agenda​


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“… Spending-hawk holdouts on the Budget Committee blocked the measure, setting the stage for further talks into the weekend. But even if the bill makes it through the House by leaders’ self-imposed Memorial Day deadline, more battles are expected in the Senate.

The state-federal healthcare program is a target because some $625 billion in Medicaid savings envisioned over 10 years will help finance an extension and expansion of Trump’s 2017 tax cuts, accounting for more than a third of the $1.5 trillion they hope to save to partly offset $4 trillion in tax relief. Those Medicaid cuts are smaller and take effect later than what many House GOP conservatives want—and have disparate effects across Republican states.

“I really want to be a yes,” said Rep. Warren Davidson (R., Ohio), who in February voted to support an earlier stagein the legislative process despite mistrusting House Republican leaders. But he said the ways the Medicaid cuts were pushed into the future was disappointing.

“A lot of the spending cuts are really promises that some future Congress is going to cut spending,” he said.…”
 
nycfan said:

Medicaid Cuts Are Turning Into a Republican Battle Royal​

Lawmakers spar over how deeply and quickly to trim program, slowing passage of Trump agenda​


Gift 🎁—> https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy...49?st=QnaYum&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink

“… Spending-hawk holdouts on the Budget Committee blocked the measure, setting the stage for further talks into the weekend. But even if the bill makes it through the House by leaders’ self-imposed Memorial Day deadline, more battles are expected in the Senate.

The state-federal healthcare program is a target because some $625 billion in Medicaid savings envisioned over 10 years will help finance an extension and expansion of Trump’s 2017 tax cuts, accounting for more than a third of the $1.5 trillion they hope to save to partly offset $4 trillion in tax relief. Those Medicaid cuts are smaller and take effect later than what many House GOP conservatives want—and have disparate effects across Republican states.

“I really want to be a yes,” said Rep. Warren Davidson (R., Ohio), who in February voted to support an earlier stagein the legislative process despite mistrusting House Republican leaders. But he said the ways the Medicaid cuts were pushed into the future was disappointing.

“A lot of the spending cuts are really promises that some future Congress is going to cut spending,” he said.…”
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“… The package takes aim at Medicaid in part by instituting work requirements for most able-bodied adults through age 64 without dependents. The work requirements wouldn’t take effect until 2029—after Trump has left office.

It also takes aim at California by reducing federal Medicaid payments to states that provide healthcare coverage for immigrants in the country illegally. That provision doesn’t take effect until October 2027—after the midterm elections.

… The push for a tighter line on spending comes as other Republicans have warned of the political dangers of deep cuts to healthcare coverage, potentially costing vulnerable members their seats in 2026. The clout of these moderates is the major reason that Republicans resisted large cuts, such as lowering the minimum share the federal government shoulders for Medicaid.

… A preliminary Congressional Budget Office analysis of the portion of the package dealing with Medicaid found that it would reduce the number of people with health insurance by at least 8.6 million in 2034. Analyses of the overall impact of the budget plan have found that high-income households gain the most from the policy changes, while lower-income households would have smaller gains or lose ground.

… One big issue in both houses of Congress: a provision that would freeze at current rates the arcane arrangements known as “provider taxes” and ban states from establishing new ones.

Alaska is the only state that doesn’t finance its Medicaid system through taxes imposed on providers like hospitals, revenue that is then supercharged by matching funds from the federal government.

Florida does tax providers—but at lower rates than other states. Both congressional delegations want something in exchange for being stuck with lower provider taxes than other states since that in turn lessens the federal government’s spending….”
 
superrific said:
I am just so sick of all these liars and Mike Johnson is among the worst. I want to smack that smug, dumbass, Flanders-loser face of his every time I see it.
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I don’t believe in hell but if it exists, people like Johnson and Vance, who cite their faith to gain credibility so they can turn around and lie with impunity, will surely be at the front of the line.
 

Trump’s tax and immigration bill clears hurdle after late-night vote​

GOP leaders worked through the weekend to win over fiscal conservatives who voted last week to block Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill in committee


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Four fiscal conservatives — all deficit hawks aligned with the ultraconservative House Freedom Caucus — changed their vote to “present,” allowing the legislative package to be recommended “favorably” to the House, 17-16.

But their hesitance to vote the One Big Beautiful Bill Act out of committee is a reminder that the far-right flank of the Republican conference remains skeptical.

Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) told reporters as he left the markup that he would count Sunday’s vote as a “big win,” but acknowledged that there’s “a lot more work to do." …”
 


Yes, even the GOP admits it adds billions to deficits and trillions to the debt over the next 10 years …
 
I was convinced that when elected again, Trump would grow the deficit yet again. So far I feel pretty good about that prediction.
 
CRHeel94 said:
I was convinced that when elected again, Trump would grow the deficit yet again. So far I feel pretty good about that prediction.
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Given that every president for the last century (save a couple of Truman and Clinton years) has done exactly that, you weren't exactly going out on a limb with that prediction.
 
Calheel said:
Given that every president for the last century (save a couple of Truman and Clinton years) has done exactly that, you weren't exactly going out on a limb with that prediction.
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I believe the deficit decreased each year under Obama so we can add another fiscally responsible Dem POTUS to the list:cool:
 
I'm old enough to remember when the GOP pilloried Pelosi for her statement that we have to pass the bill to know what's in it. Which was merely a reflection that the details were fluid. Of course, the GOP selective memory and outrage is standard fare these days, barely even remarkable.
 
superrific said:
I'm old enough to remember when the GOP pilloried Pelosi for her statement that we have to pass the bill to know what's in it. Which was merely a reflection that the details were fluid. Of course, the GOP selective memory and outrage is standard fare these days, barely even remarkable.
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Thank you for bringing up that Pelosi statement.

She said we are going to have to pass the bill so YOU ( the audience she was speaking to ) can find out what's in it which will dispel the misinformation being spread by republicans about what is in the ACA.

"You've heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don't know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention–it's about diet, not diabetes. It's going to be very, very exciting.

But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
 
heelinhell said:
I believe the deficit decreased each year under Obama so we can add another fiscally responsible Dem POTUS to the list:cool:
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Good point. CR did say deficit and not debt, and it is true that some years have had smaller deficits than others (while basically every year has added to the overall debt).
 
heelinhell said:
I believe the deficit decreased each year under Obama so we can add another fiscally responsible Dem POTUS to the list:cool:
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Six out of eight years, but the increase from 2010 to 2011 was miniscule and the increase from 2015 to 2016 was when deficits were way below $1T. So yes, Obama ranks as one of the greatest deficit hawks in recent memory.

Anyone who votes for Pubs because of the deficit is a bona fide historically-illiterate moron.
 
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