U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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superrific said:
Chris Cuomo is wrong. He doesn't understand what Jeffries is saying. If the CR doesn't contain safeguards against executive misuse, then it's not clean at all. It turns Congressional appropriations into an exercise of Trump's whims. There's nothing clean about it.

I know you so desperately want to both-sides because it is central to your identity, but citing Chris Cuomo as some sort of budgetary expert isn't going to get there. I know vastly more about public finance than he does, and you don't seem to take my word for anything.
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Why do you still waste time engaging zen?

He's the worst kind of bosides troll.

Trump isn't balancing any budget, anyone stupid enough to argue that he is has joined the cult. Zen is a cult member.
 
Patb78 said:
IF the thing is minted ( and that’s still a big if) I personally will refuse to take them say in the form of change at a store.
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"A living person may not appear on U.S. currency'
Paper currency is produced by the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving and Printing, while coins are handled by the U.S. Mint.

In a 2016 article, the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco confirmed that "a living person may not appear on U.S. currency."

"To avoid the appearance of a monarchy, it was long-standing tradition to only feature portraits of deceased individuals on currency and coin," it said. "That tradition became law with an 1866 Act of Congress."

“No coin issued may bear the image of a living former or current President,” says the federal law − 31 U.S. Code 5112 regarding coin denominations, specifications, and design, according to the Legal Information Institute at Cornell Law School.

Would the $1 Donald Trump commemorative coin be legal? The Treasury Department is considering a Trump $1 coin for 250th US birthday
 
BillOfRights said:
"A living person may not appear on U.S. currency'
Paper currency is produced by the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving and Printing, while coins are handled by the U.S. Mint.

In a 2016 article, the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco confirmed that "a living person may not appear on U.S. currency."

"To avoid the appearance of a monarchy, it was long-standing tradition to only feature portraits of deceased individuals on currency and coin," it said. "That tradition became law with an 1866 Act of Congress."

“No coin issued may bear the image of a living former or current President,” says the federal law − 31 U.S. Code 5112 regarding coin denominations, specifications, and design, according to the Legal Information Institute at Cornell Law School.

Would the $1 Donald Trump commemorative coin be legal? The Treasury Department is considering a Trump $1 coin for 250th US birthday
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Oh, I totally agree. I’ve told some Trump people I know way before this stupid fucking idea came out that federal law prevents putting the image or likeness of a living person on US currency or stamps. But when has something being illegal ever stopped Trump or his group of sycophants?
 
Zoo_View said:
Same.

Hell, I didn’t watch anything he’s ever appeared on or hosted.
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I always get a kick out of Trumpers who project and claim that it's liberals who get all of their news from CNN and MSNBC and are "brainwashed" by such news sources. Other than election night returns I almost never watch either MSNBC or CNN and certainly not their opinion/talking head primetime shows like Cuomo used to have. I will say that his father Mario was a pretty good governor of New York back in the 80s, but his two sons have been nothing to write home about, that's for sure.
 
Like many liberals, I wanted Mario Cuomo to run for POTUS.

My grandfather was the founding Dean of the School/College of Education at the University of Rochester.

He lived in Upstate New York from about 1956-1989. He loved Mario Cuomo. One of the things he loved about Mario Cuomo was that Mario would bring together groups and tell them, “You all can’t have everything you want. Work it out among yourselves.”

He was raised in Upstate New York. Orphaned at 13 or so. Taken in by distant relatives. Graduated high school at 16 (he was also intimately involved with his high school English teacher his JR/SR years; she was only 19). Attended Albany State Teachers College (now SUNY Albany) on a full academic scholarship early in the Great Depression. The full-ride required him to teach public school after college for 5-10 years.

World War II interrupted that idea for a few years. Granddad taught chemistry, physics, calculus….and, he’d created a navigation course and taught it to his students because he figured war was coming.

The Navy thought he’d make a great navigation instructor. He wanted to be in combat; but, the navy valued him more as an instructor. Eventually, he served in the Navy in Shawnee, Oklahoma……just as easy to get lost at night over the Great Plains as the ocean; easier to land and survive in a farm field than the ocean.

So, my Upstate New York grandfather, orphaned at the beginning of the Great Depression, managed to earn a college degree by committing to teach for several years…..then he taught in several new schools built by New Deal programs…….then, he earned his Ph.D because of the GI Bill.

Needless to say, he was a HUGE FDR, Truman, and New Deal fan.

New Deal and New Deal-esque programs and his own gumption lifted him up from poverty to a great life.

He then paid it forward for decades.
 
dukeman92 said:
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What are they supposed to be doing when not working? Standing on their head?

That only matters if the reason they are not working is that they can't break away from video games. Which is, of course, not what is happening. I have my doubts that there is any AEI study at all like what Johnson is describing, but if there is, the researchers were not looking for any sort of causality.
 
superrific said:
What are they supposed to be doing when not working? Standing on their head?

That only matters if the reason they are not working is that they can't break away from video games. Which is, of course, not what is happening. I have my doubts that there is any AEI study at all like what Johnson is describing, but if there is, the researchers were not looking for any sort of causality.
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Gaming addiction, like many other behavioral addictions, is a real thing. They are many kids (many with ADHD, who need the immediate dopamine rush) who have a problem with chronic gaming and not moving forward with their lives. This became exacerbated over the Covid period.

Now, what percentage of the unemployed population? That is not sure. I tend to doubt most of those kids have the initiative to sign up for Medicaid when they are kicked off their parents' insurance.
 
superrific said:
What are they supposed to be doing when not working? Standing on their head?

That only matters if the reason they are not working is that they can't break away from video games. Which is, of course, not what is happening. I have my doubts that there is any AEI study at all like what Johnson is describing, but if there is, the researchers were not looking for any sort of causality.
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There is a blog post from AEI on this issue. A guy who claims to have conducted a study when in fact he just joined two database tables and didn't bother with any sort of statistical controls. That is not the same thing as a study.
 
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