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ZenMode said:
I don't know who you are talking to, but I don't support bombing alleged drug boats or droning terrorists in foreign countries.

That's why I specifically called out our handling of Saddam Hussein as an example of the correct way to do things.
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See. That's why you have no credibility. That was the result of the wrong war at the wrong time at the wrong place and it cost us Americans in Iraq and later in Afghanistan by the delay in fighting the right war. It cost us a lot of money and a lot of respect by others, thanks to Bssh's crusade remark., How in the hell was that the right way to do it?
 
Calheel said:
Autopen. Won’t count. Those are the new rules.
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Haha. But please don’t misrepresent the new rules. Any executive action by a Democrat must be signed in blood with a dozen witnesses. But executive actions by a Republican — including declassifying dozens of highly confidential state secrets — are valid if the president thinks about doing it for at least 0.1 second.
 
ZenMode said:
Where were these Dems and their concern for murder when we droned Qasem Soleimani? Last time I checked, Soleimani hadn't killed anyone and was never given a trial.
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I remember the Dems protesting quite a bit but the Republicans continued to kiss Trump's ass and shift blame to the Dems. Since he was president then, I'll bet that assassination doesn't look like such a mistake to you now.
 
I was thinking, "what trial of Saddam? More Zen bullshit?" and then I looked it up. Somehow I missed that entirely. That was a bad year for me, when my emotional troubles were really flaring up, so I guess that's why. Still. Weird that I either didn't pay any attention or just blacked out about it entirely.
 
ZenMode said:
If they are, everyone involved should be tried accordingly. That is a completely separate discussion from the impact of the actions of Congressional Democrats.

Even if they end up being right, they should not be making these kinds of statements.
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That last statement is the single most ignorant thing I have ever read in any message board.

The idea that if indeed American troops are violating international rules of war it is wrong for members of congress to say"don't do that"... is entirely preposterous.
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ZenMode said:
Because the actions of the Democrats is unprecedented and clearly meant to imply that some portion of our military personnel are currently committing war crimes . And, in doing so, clearly raising the political temperature even further.
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It is not only about the war crimes that are currently being committed, and the double tap strike is a war crime.

It is also a response to a POTUS who has made threats that would be illegal if carried out. He has inquired/threatened to have the military shoot protesters in the legs. That itself warrants a reminder that the military officers and enlisted men have an obligation to ignore illegal orders.
 
finesse said:
See. That's why you have no credibility. That was the result of the wrong war at the wrong time at the wrong place and it cost us Americans in Iraq and later in Afghanistan by the delay in fighting the right war. It cost us a lot of money and a lot of respect by others, thanks to Bssh's crusade remark., How in the hell was that the right way to do it?
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The legitimacy of the war has nothing to do with what I am talking about.
 
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