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Curious if anyone knows why RPI is still such a major part of college baseball when it has been thoroughly discredited in other sports?
 
Enigma94 said:
Curious if anyone knows why RPI is still such a major part of college baseball when it has been thoroughly discredited in other sports?
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I think RPI is still effective in college baseball because of its simplicity in accounting more heavily for strictly win – loss record in series across a long season, whereas in basketball there are much better and more advanced efficiency metrics that take into consideration things like margin of victory that RPI does not account for, which do a better job of indicating team quality relative to their competition. RPI does a better job of measuring a team by the overall quality of its schedule, whereas metrics like NET in basketball do a better job of measuring a team’s strength by how well it performs in individual games versus a three game series like baseball.
 
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CFordUNC said:
I think RPI is still effective in college baseball because of its simplicity in accounting more heavily for strictly win – loss record in series across a long season, whereas in basketball there are much better and more advanced efficiency metrics that take into consideration things like margin of victory that RPI does not account for, which do a better job of indicating team quality relative to their competition. RPI does a better job of measuring a team by the overall quality of its schedule, whereas metrics like NET in basketball do a better job of measuring a team’s strength by how well it performs in individual games versus a three game series like baseball.
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yeah, a lot of RPI's issues in the other sports come down to the fact that single-game outcomes are really noisy. That gets fixed to a significant extent in a sport that's played mostly in 3-game series, where it's statistically a safer assumption that the better team won. it's not always true, of course, but it's probably true enough to not be egregiously wrong. it does still get tanked if a team loses a bad midweek, though... but that's also not something the committee seems to care about when it comes selection time.

it's kind of an aside, but i do wish college baseball had better publicly available numbers. in particular, judging defense simply by fielding percentage feels like something out of the stone age, and the only time we get access to pitchers' mix and distribution is when we're lucky enough that they get mentioned on national broadcasts.
 
Others have already covered this but simply put...RPI works pretty well over a 56 game schedule...particularly once they tweaked for more credit to road wins.
 
DiehardHeelFan said:
Heels get it done against SC 9-1. McDuffie with a great pitching line: 2.2 innings and 7 K’s, 1 hit & 0 runs.
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Mcduffie rounding into form, with Glauber peaking as well. Nice bullpen 1-2. Hopefully a freshman arm or two can step forward (or Olin/seagraves can get healthy) for depth and some bats step forward.
Big series At notre dame who’s hot this weekend
 
uncjhodges said:
Mcduffie rounding into form, with Glauber peaking as well. Nice bullpen 1-2. Hopefully a freshman arm or two can step forward (or Olin/seagraves can get healthy) for depth and some bats step forward.
Big series At notre dame who’s hot this weekend
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Matthijs and Flannery have been pretty solid. Would like to see Chmielewski or one of the freshman lefties get a few more good innings down; it'd suck to be sunk again because we don't have any reliable lefty relief.

DeCaro vs Radel on Thursday night is going to be absolute cinema.
 
akillesheel said:
Matthijs and Flannery have been pretty solid. Would like to see Chmielewski or one of the freshman lefties get a few more good innings down; it'd suck to be sunk again because we don't have any reliable lefty relief.

DeCaro vs Radel on Thursday night is going to be absolute cinema.
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Personally, don’t think Matthijs has it and not sure Forbes trusts Flannery to throw strikes in a big spot. Rose has looked solid though and could take over that lefty role
 
uncjhodges said:
Personally, don’t think Matthijs has it and not sure Forbes trusts Flannery to throw strikes in a big spot. Rose has looked solid though and could take over that lefty role
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matthijs doesn't have big-time stuff, sure, but i'm not sure what "it" is if a 2.31 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, and 15:4 K-BB in 11 innings isn't it. i thought he'd regressed last year even before the injury and shouldn't be getting as many high-leverage opportunities as he did - early ERA fluctuates but the WHIP was also way up. but he's been better than ever this year and it's almost not debateable.
 
akillesheel said:
matthijs doesn't have big-time stuff, sure, but i'm not sure what "it" is if a 2.31 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, and 15:4 K-BB in 11 innings isn't it. i thought he'd regressed last year even before the injury and shouldn't be getting as many high-leverage opportunities as he did - early ERA fluctuates but the WHIP was also way up. but he's been better than ever this year and it's almost not debateable.
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We're also talking about the third arm out of the bullpen. How many teams have an MLB quality arm coming as their third option in relief? I'd say we're in a better spot than most as Matthijs isn't the only one that could be that guy and he's a solid option himself.
 
This may be true, i was more going off last years stuff and maybe havent been locked in on his appearances
akillesheel said:
matthijs doesn't have big-time stuff, sure, but i'm not sure what "it" is if a 2.31 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, and 15:4 K-BB in 11 innings isn't it. i thought he'd regressed last year even before the injury and shouldn't be getting as many high-leverage opportunities as he did - early ERA fluctuates but the WHIP was also way up. but he's been better than ever this year and it's almost not debateable.
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Gets us to 4th in the ACC. Could theoretically be first in the ACC by the end of the weekend, but that would take a lot of breaks over next two days.
 
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