UNC Basketball History

Not strictly Carolina basketball history but this big man did plague the Tar Heels for 3 years down the road in Winston-Salem. If you are in your 60s or late 50s you remember this Demon Deacon great. He has written a memoir about living through "interesting times."

'Blind Truths' | Wake Forest Magazine
Actually, I think you need to be in your 70's or late 60's to remember that dude...
Late 50's people would recall the Tim Duncan era big Wakester, plaguing us from down the road in W-S.
An interesting read nonetheless...
 
Not strictly Carolina basketball history but this big man did plague the Tar Heels for 3 years down the road in Winston-Salem. If you are in your 60s or late 50s you remember this Demon Deacon great. He has written a memoir about living through "interesting times."

'Blind Truths' | Wake Forest Magazine
What about 70s? Bunch of ageists on this board. Mainstay of those great Spurs teams - Twin Towers with David Robinson. One of those guys that was hard to dislike no matter how he abused us.
 
1. Maya Blue? Link: Maya blue - Wikipedia

2. In re Michael Jordan: IIRC, for several years the Geography Department widely publicized that it's graduates had the highest average starting salary of any four year degree in the entire University of North Carolina System. And it a footnote stated that one graduate, Michael Jordan, had a disproportionate impact on the average starting salary for the period used.
You’re going to have to provide links and documentation that UNC’s Geography Department publicized that its undergraduates earned so much.

What happened was that some crappy publication (let’s call it US News and World Reports) did a crappy job.

They publicized that Geography Majors averaged $50K a year starting salary …….that would be in 1984 or 1985……..and it was based on MJ’s NBA salary and endorsements.
 
You’re going to have to provide links and documentation . . ..
1. I have no such links. My posts was based 100% on belief and recollection.

2. And further, based on belief and recollection, the folks in the Geography Department were not trying to mislead anyone into believing a BA in Geography was going to insure a life of wealth and leisure. Instead, it was just a lark by these folks celebrating that even Michael Jordan believed getting an education was part of being a role model and that he choose geography as that education.

3. Please accept my most profuse apologies for this unpardonable, ill-timed, regretable attempt at humor.

4. At a minimum, such an assertion should have been accompanied by a signed and notarized statement by Mr. Jordan.
 
You’re going to have to provide links and documentation that UNC’s Geography Department publicized that its undergraduates earned so much.

What happened was that some crappy publication (let’s call it US News and World Reports) did a crappy job.

They publicized that Geography Majors averaged $50K a year starting salary …….that would be in 1984 or 1985……..and it was based on MJ’s NBA salary and endorsements.
As I remember the the "story' there was also a student that was a descendant of whoever started the Rand McNally company-and they somehow got a really high paying job at that company upon graduation
 
You’re going to have to provide links and documentation that UNC’s Geography Department publicized that its undergraduates earned so much.

What happened was that some crappy publication (let’s call it US News and World Reports) did a crappy job.

They publicized that Geography Majors averaged $50K a year starting salary …….that would be in 1984 or 1985……..and it was based on MJ’s NBA salary and endorsements.
Sorry @Zoo_View I was there.

No documentation. But I was a still a Geography grad student a year before MJ graduated and I can most definitely confirm the department played it up. But alwys with a wink and smile.

And I beleive the $ number was much higher - 6 digits. Don't know the numbers but doubt that there were more than 15 geog undergrads who graduated that year; maybe 20 but generally less.
 
As I remember the the "story' there was also a student that was a descendant of whoever started the Rand McNally company-and they somehow got a really high paying job at that company upon graduation.
Think that's true but his salary was dwarfed by MJ's.
 
On this day 10 years ago I drove down the mountain, Asheville to Chapel Hill, and paid my last respects to Coach Dean Smith. We were all so very lucky for so very long. This sign stood outside Sutton’s Drug Store that day. May the spirited example of his decisions and ethics serve as a guide for those who recognize the unique nature of his greatness.

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Chapter 11 in ‘A Coach’s Life’ is titled “I May Be Wrong, But!” It is my favorite in a book that is never out of reach. It is Coach Smith’s “This is what I believe” essay. In it Coach Smith writes that the game of basketball gives no advantage for wealth, nor race, nor religion, nor nationality and is “about as fair as humans can make something.”

In his assisted autobiography (John Kilgo and Sally Jenkins), ‘A Coach’s Life,’ Coach Smith thinks out loud about theology, one of his favorite topics. As a man of faith he expressed his reluctance to see God’s favor in a victory — “I may be wrong, but the idea that God cheers for one team to win over another is not my idea of God.” You may not like it, or perhaps you will love to hear it, but Coach Smith was firmly and thoughtfully Left-of-Center. And that Worldview was rooted in Christian Theology and The Bible.

He stood in opposition to White Supremacy, Nuclear Proliferation, and the Death Penalty. He saw right through the Moral Majority. He protested the Vietnam War. Coach Smith spoke for ‘Gay Rights’ and Civil Rights and the dismantling of segregation - all in a state that sent Jesse Helms to the Senate five times and has, disgracefully, more recently been carried in presidential elections three times by trump.

Many of us loved him for his coaching style long before we knew these things about him. But that style exemplified the baseline philosophy — share the ball, work hard to make your teammates’ opportunities better, and selfless sacrifice — that all of his teams displayed on the court. Maybe even for some of us it was Coach Smith’s example that helped to bring the light into our own lives. Like another UNC thinker, Frank Porter Graham, Coach Smith generated great heat in the lives of a great many people. Understandably, some did not like him, but if you did not respect him then you were/are a pitiable case.

Fred Hobson, born and raised in Yadkinville, NC, and who played Junior Varsity basketball at Carolina and later served as an English Professor at his Alma Mater, said, “To be quite frank, many of the people who idolized him in the state did not know his politics and would not have agreed with them if they had. So what everyone saw in him was not his politics. It was simply his leadership — that calm in the face of crisis.”

Continuing with the frankness, I’m personally very glad that I came to know the full measure of Coach Smith - because he showed us a path forward through darkness and did so with tact and by example. In the meantime, Coach Smith brought that same thoughtfulness to the game itself and to the relationship that he forged with each of his players over his 36 years on the sidelines. Yes, he thrilled us and taught us never to give up and that the only way was the right way, the human way, the kind and considerate way, but he also won the game far, far more than he lost.

He worked to turn the Front Porch of The University of North Carolina into a welcoming entryway for all people. Quite literally because of him the world had a focus other than Helms or KKK violence or Bathroom Bills when they looked to North Carolina and had to know that we all weren’t — clearly we couldn’t be — like that. He demonstrated that regression was contested in The Tar Heel State. If you don’t see this or are skeptical, read up - start with ‘A Coach’s Life’ then move on to the testimonials of his players, fellow coaches, folks that he worked and prayed with, and even most of all - the people that he bested. Happy Birthday Coach (1931-2015). Never, ever forgotten.
 
I lived in CH as a kid . Had a transistor radio under the pillow listening to games . We moved to Wisconsin late 60s-no espn, streamimg, internet coverage. So I had the schedule and I would call WCHL for the score. I guess in those days it was a 50 cent call for the parents lol I did see some March Madness Carolina TV-Charlie Scott going off for example
When I moved back to CH I managed to get tickets-late Carmichel through about 30 plus years at DES But those early years got me hooked
 
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I travelled for work quite abit. So it was with great enthusiasm I looked forward to when the nascent broadcast.com would begin streaming Woody for UNC games. This was Mark Cuban's first big money maker. They had Indiana of course (Cuban) and Kentucky, we were #3.

In those days hotels were not all equipped to handle modems. The nicer hotels the less equipped in general. So I had a little tool kit with all kinds of connectors and things. At my main Denver hotel I actually had to go inside the plate on the wall and wire up my modem cable.

But it was well wotrth the effort. Nothing like eating chinese and drinking scotch sitting on a hotel bed while listening to Woody 2,000 miles away.
 
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In those days hotels were not all equipped to handle modems. The nicer hotels the less equipped in general. So I had a little tool kit with all kinds of connectors and things. At my main Denver hotel I actually had to go inside the plate on the wall and wire up my modem cable.

That is wild fun fandom
 
Back around 1998 I was on a job interview in New England during basketball season and Carolina was playing Maryland. It is amazing to think that game was not available on TV where I was but it wasn't. No internet streaming signal of any kind for me. It might have been possible in a sports bar -- I don't know as I was in a hotel with no transportation. Hotel had no bar, room had no cable alternative for ACC games. I bought a phone card and used it to call a friend in North Carolina and he put the phone up to the radio so that I could listen.

I was pretty glad that I didn't get that job.
 
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#OTD in 1974 - 8 pts in 17 seconds & dook goes down - 50,000 people saw it if you believe everybody who says they were there. #GTHd.
 
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#OTD in 1974 - 8 pts in 17 seconds & dook goes down - 50,000 people saw it if you believe everybody who says they were there. #GTHd.
And then there a the few anquished souls like this. A friend who left with 17 seconds. Out the door, soon heard a loud yell from inside. Turned around and door was locked. He has kicked himself in the ass all these 50 years later.
 
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