UNC Basketball History

donbosco said:
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#OTD in 1974 - 8 pts in 17 seconds & dook goes down - 50,000 people saw it if you believe everybody who says they were there. #GTHd.
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There was an article several years ago about how big a lead has to be at certain points in the game for a win to be guaranteed. In other words, it analyzed how much a team had to be up by with a certain amount of time left to make it impossible for the other team to come back and win. I can’t remember the conclusions it came up with, but it did mention that the one game that defied its analysis was that 1974 UNC-Duke game.

Still to this day, I don’t understand how it’s possible. It seems nearly impossible with today’s rules, but back then there was no three-point shot and the clock didn’t stop after made baskets.
 
donbosco said:
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#OTD in 1974 - 8 pts in 17 seconds & dook goes down - 50,000 people saw it if you believe everybody who says they were there. #GTHd.
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I was living in Henderson, NC and watched that game on TV with several friends in the den at the mayor's house. A couple of guys had gone outside to smoke when dook went up by eight and couldn't believe it when we told them what had happened.
 
grimes70 said:
And then there a the few anquished souls like this. A friend who left with 17 seconds. Out the door, soon heard a loud yell from inside. Turned around and door was locked. He has kicked himself in the ass all these 50 years later.
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I had a friend who was screaming $&#& at people leaving, largely consisting of some variation of "it ain't over!" He later admitted to me that he didn't really believe we would come back, but he was just mad at seeing people leave early.
 
Icky Mettle said:
There was an article several years ago about how big a lead has to be at certain points in the game for a win to be guaranteed. In other words, it analyzed how much a team had to be up by with a certain amount of time left to make it impossible for the other team to come back and win. I can’t remember the conclusions it came up with, but it did mention that the one game that defied its analysis was that 1974 UNC-Duke game.

Still to this day, I don’t understand how it’s possible. It seems nearly impossible with today’s rules, but back then there was no three-point shot and the clock didn’t stop after made baskets.
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There's a rule of thumb that if the led exceeds the amount of minutes left, you win 80% of the time.
So say up by 8, 8 minutes to go, you win 80% of the time (that becomes fuzzier with the low numbers).
 
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“On this day in 1924, @UNC_Basketball won the Southern Conference tournament by beating Alabama 26-18, earning their first national championship and capping off an undefeated 26-0 season. Not content to merely rush Franklin Street, students marched all the way to Durham to celebrate.” Why March to Durham? The reason was that both Cartwright Carmichael and Jack Cobb, the stars of this team of champions, were from the Bull City. Students had waited outside ‘Gooch’s Cafe’ on Franklin Street (approximately the location of ‘Johnny T-Shirt’ today) for notification of the final score in their game with Alabama. 3600 attended the championship game in Atlanta’s Municipal Auditorium. Carolina defeated Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Mississippi A&M to reach the finals.

This game preceded the creation of the NCAA and was the culmination of all the madness that March provided in those days. The Tar Heels were named National Champions for 1924 in 1943 by the Helms Foundation. Retroactive championships were awarded for the 1919-1920 through 1942-1943 seasons at that time as well. (A second source asserts that the championship was awarded to UNC in 1936) Obviously without a nation-wide tournament the title could be disputed in much the way that college football crowns could be for decades. Carolina certainly can lay claim to being the legitimate Number One of 1924 and it is a strong one.

Angus ‘Monk’ McDonald joined Carmichael and Cobb in leading the 1924 team. McDonald was a shortstop for The Diamond Heels and the football quarterback as well. Coachless the previous two seasons, Norm Shepard, a Carolina grad returning to attend law school became the head coach for the ‘23-24 season, led the squad to the 26-0 tally, won the Southern Conference Tournament, then promptly moved to China. He returned several years later and coached at various schools until 1968, finishing with an overall career record of 323 wins and 277 losses. (In NC, Shepard also coached at Guilford and Davidson). His brother, Bo Shepard, also coached basketball at Carolina and his brothers Carlyle and Alex also played at UNC.

Hat Tip to @UNCArchives — https://newspapers.digitalnc.org/.../1924-03-07/ed-1/seq-1/ XXXXX https://twitter.com/uncarch.../status/1499739220415594506...
 
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March 5, 2022

Perspective-Three Years Ago On This Day. “Forever & Ever. Amen.” A Public Service Performed. The “Homecourt Hagiography”* Shut Down. From The Wonderfully Truncated Opening, To The Step Up By The Frequently Maligned Heels, To The Impromptu Throwing Of His Own Team Under The Bus (unacceptable?) By The Typically Impolite Honoree In The Post-Defeat ‘Celebration’…This One Is “In The Books.” “Archived, Inscribed, and Itemized.”

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superrific said:
That's what I thought, but I didn't get the joke. Which is fine. I don't need to get it.

I didn't realize, until I looked just now, that REM recorded Radio Free Europe in Winston Salem
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Indeed. At Mitch Easter’s Drive In recording studio.
I had a trio in 1983 which recorded there… we always thought we were cool because we got to record a little 3 song EP at the same studio REM had recorded in. Mitch is a sweetheart BTW. A helluva recording engineer but also a killer musician in his own right.
 
Centerpiece said:
Indeed. At Mitch Easter’s Drive In recording studio.
I had a trio in 1983 which recorded there… we always thought we were cool because we got to record a little 3 song EP at the same studio REM had recorded in. Mitch is a sweetheart BTW. A helluva recording engineer but also a killer musician in his own right.
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Serious despiser of trumpism to boot.
 
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