UNC Basketball Possible coaches - UNC hires ex-Nuggets HC Michael Malone

SnoopRob said:
That article is very, very silly and, if I were the author, I'd be embarrassed my name is on it.

The fact that a guy who won the NBA Championship three years ago is the lowest graded coaching hire on that list - which contains hires who have never been a HC coach at the college or NBA level - shows that it is nothing more than clickbait.
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It was written by someone named Cody Nagel, who is primarily a football/fantasy guy for 247/CBS. It is not exactly Gary Parish or Matt Nordlander (not that they would be above clickbait stuff, either)
 
BillOfRights said:
I don't think the consensus on this board would be above a B, and we're all Carolina fans. I think the uncertainty of a first time college head coach navigating NIL and the portal and if he will be able to recruit and relate to teenagers.
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Sure there's some uncertainty, but the dude has won an NBA championship, is known as a very good (at a minimum) Xs & Os guy, and has a very high work ethic. Add that to Carolina's resources and that's a pretty high floor for the program.

And a B when the scale is A through F is one thing, but when the grader only gives As through Cs, there's no realistic way the NBA champion can be the only C.
 
Peppers49 said:
One of the reasons I have mixed feelings about this hire is definitely because it’s now the 4th major coaching hire (going back to Mack Brown in 2018) where UNC has opted to try the unconventional path. I was really hoping we would finally just follow the formula that most schools take of hiring a younger guy that has a track record of building programs at lower level stops, with UNC being the natural next (and hopefully last) rung on their climb up the coaching ladder. Maybe that’s an unfair way to look at the situation though.
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The NIL is an unconventional era. I will agree, though, that our unconventional path has not yielded ideal results thus far.
 
SnoopRob said:
Sure there's some uncertainty, but the dude has won an NBA championship, is known as a very good (at a minimum) Xs & Os guy, and has a very high work ethic. Add that to Carolina's resources and that's a pretty high floor for the program.

And a B when the scale is A through F is one thing, but when the grader only gives As through Cs, there's no realistic way the NBA champion can be the only C.
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I think Michael Malone could not care less what grade he gets from a clickbait site or any other, nor does he care what our dumbasses opine here. And that is a good thing...

Wins and losses are going to be the full metric going forward in Tar Heel athletics
 
Obviously a risky hire...seems like it's either going to be a huge success or total shitshow...no in-between. We will learn a lot soon with the remaining staff hires and portal haul.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Honestly, that article is a pretty mixed analysis of his coaching. There's some positive things there, but some real negatives too. And not many clues as to how he'll handle working with college players.
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Interestingly, I feel much more excited about the hire after reading that arricle.
 
Oddball said:
I think Michael Malone could not care less what grade he gets from a clickbait site or any other, nor does he care what our dumbasses opine here. And that is a good thing...

Wins and losses are going to be the full metric going forward in Tar Heel athletics
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What Michael Malone thinks is irrelevant. What recruits think matters. What influencers think matters. What players think matters. And last but not least, what donors think matters.
 
sringwal said:
Interestingly, I feel much more excited about the hire after reading that arricle.
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I know nothing about him, and that article did a good job of pointing out his strengths and weaknesses, and he had a good share of both. As I said, I'm just going to wait and see how he does next season and hope for the best. Not much anyone else can do at this point, although I'm sure that speculation will continue all through the spring and summer, and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
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Mulberry Heel said:
I know nothing about him, and that article did a good job of pointing out his strengths and weaknesses, and he had a good share of both. As I said, I'm just going to wait and see how he does next season and hope for the best. Not much anyone else can do at this point, although I'm sure that speculation will continue all through the summer, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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My biggest concern, and hope, is that both of our bigtime coaches are primarily respected for their time coaching the best recent player in their respective sport this century.

My fear is that this is another Belichick type hire, but Malone doesn't come in with the same baggage, and our basketball brand makes recruitment much easier for the program.
 
BillOfRights said:
What Michael Malone thinks is irrelevant. What recruits think matters. What influencers think matters. What players think matters. And last but not least, what donors think matters.
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Willing to say that for most, 'money talks and bullshit walks'.

If we have the proper level of NIL for the players, I think Malone has the bona fides to not scare them off. And then we shall see how he does about developing them.
 
I understand the timing based on events and portal opening. I gotta ask what doubts they had that prevented them from making this choice days ago? Lloyd and May were never coming here, and Donavan using us. I like what I've been learning from the little I knew of hum several hours ago.

Maybe he's the universe balancing from Belicheck hire. 🤔🕉️
 
CeruleanBlueHeel said:
I understand the timing based on events and portal opening. I gotta ask what doubts they had that prevented them from making this choice days ago? Lloyd and May were never coming here, and Donavan using us.
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I'm sure that there will be "inside the hire" stories to come out with more details but my strong hunch is that Malone was identified as the "floor" of the search (who was a guaranteed yes) pretty early on and everything else has been about trying to get a player the AD + inside stakeholders deemed a better hire.

If you're getting any any kind of reasonable response from Stevens or Lloyd/May/TJO, you've got to go with those options until you've either landed them or you made them say no.

Once they were off the board, I imagine that Carolina turned it's attention to Billy Donovan, but couldn't get Donovan to agree to anything before the end of the NBA season and the Carolina PTB decided that the gap between Donovan and Malone wasn't worth the wait.

Other coaches like McCollum or Bylington may have played some role in the search, but it's not clear how much.
 
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