UNC Basketball Possible coaches

I'm don't see that as a clean comparison. Donovan has coached CBB and he's currently employed.
it's not one-to-one, but enough about the two rhymes that I would be extremely skeptical. i would much, much rather have somebody who has coached and succeeded in the right now version of college basketball. i could maybe have made the exception for Stevens because of how he's had incredible success at every job he's held, but Donovan has just been spinning wheels in Chicago for this entire decade.
 
Weren't all of the ########INSIDERS on Inside Carolina telling us that Brad Stevens had tons of interest in the UNC job? Seems a little odd for him to emphatically remove his name from consideration 12 hours into our coaching opening!

I knew it was pretty unlikely but there was enough smoke that I was starting to believe
 
I knew it was pretty unlikely but there was enough smoke that I was starting to believe
exactly this level of "smoke" has happened with every high-profile job opening in the sport since Roy retired. athletic departments deluding themselves into thinking theirs is the one that will get Stevens back to college - us in '21, Duke in '22, Kentucky in '24
 
I knew it was pretty unlikely but there was enough smoke that I was starting to believe
Yeah. I hear ya for sure. I've just kind of had a longtime annoyance that so many people place so much weight- like, gospel truth type weight- on every word that those supposed #INSIDERS say on an anonymous message board. They've definitely been right often in the past, but they've also been wrong often, as well. And it's understandable- things are always fluid and can change. But almost always those #INSIDERS are getting a very UNC-tinted version of events from sources internal at UNC, and so oftentimes they aren't able to share the whole story since there are always two sides. So it leads to stuff like this, where we probably had a cursory conversation with Brad Stevens, he didn't immediately tell us to pound sand, and then that led people at UNC to believe we had a legit shot, which they then told the #INSIDERS who then started posting on IC that Brad Stevens to UNC might legitimately have legs.
 
Weren't all of the ########INSIDERS on Inside Carolina telling us that Brad Stevens had tons of interest in the UNC job? Seems a little odd for him to emphatically remove his name from consideration 12 hours into our coaching opening!
the one thing I have said consistently for 20 years about "insiders": before you consider someone an insider, question their motivation. Most people with real knowledge have too much to lose by speaking freely so anyone dropping hints usually has a clear agenda or are seeking clout.

I mean I have "inside info" on like 5 things being filmed right now that any entertainment/ gossip site would love to get their hands on, but doesn't do shit for me to risk my job over in exchange for what internet "fame" it might get me, doesn't help the things I am working on, and really doesn't matter because it will all come out in due time anyway.
 
Donovan is the Belichick hire. Not quite as old, but somebody who would be hired on the strength of his resume from 15+ years ago while his recent work has been no better than mediocre, and also who has no experience with the contemporary college game. Hard pass imo.
It’s not apples to apples of course, considering Donovan has actually coached and won at the highest level in college, but yeah I also get Belichick vibes from that option. We really should just be focusing on guys that have experience building successful college programs under current NIL/transfer rules imo. Don’t overcomplicate it.
 
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Donovan is not Bill Belichick. Belichick is arguably the greatest coach in the history of football. Donovan is a very good coach but the two aren't the same. Belichick failed in year one for reasons beyond football play on the field...namely, inexperience with college recruiting, NIL, roster construction, and losing his mind with extra curriculars. It remains to be seen if he improves in those areas enough to field a solid team. Donovan was very successful in college pre NIL and he has remained a solid coach in the NBA. I would argue he is a better candidate than Brad Stevens. What he is not is the basketball version of Bill Belichick. We are going to hear a lot of "so and so is like Belichick" - and truthfully no one is like Belichick unless you can hire Pat Riley maybe 10 years ago and even that is a flawed comparison for a lot of reasons. Donovan would be a pretty big upgrade over Davis.
 
I agree for sure but there's also guys like Matt Campbell who are just culturally Midwestern and want to stay there and build instead of chase the blueblood spotlight. I've read some stuff about Otzelberger that makes me think he's cut from a similar cloth. Time will tell.
Maybe, but people will also say guys like Golden, Oates, and May are in secure little cocoons at schools where basketball will always play second fiddle to the football program so the pressure isn’t nearly as intense as at UNC, UK or KU. If potential coaches want to stay in their comfort zone they aren’t really potential UNC coaches anyway.
 
it's not one-to-one, but enough about the two rhymes that I would be extremely skeptical. i would much, much rather have somebody who has coached and succeeded in the right now version of college basketball. i could maybe have made the exception for Stevens because of how he's had incredible success at every job he's held, but Donovan has just been spinning wheels in Chicago for this entire decade.
I tend to agree with you about preferring someone succeeding in the current version of CBB. I don't hold Donovan's results in Chicago against him too much, though, because it's one of the most poorly managed franchises in the NBA; they have done him zero favors with roster construction.
 
I tend to agree with you about preferring someone succeeding in the current version of CBB. I don't hold Donovan's results in Chicago against him too much, though, because it's one of the most poorly managed franchises in the NBA; they have done him zero favors with roster construction.
you're not wrong about the roster construction and management, but i'd also say that it taking 5+ years for Chicago to commit to a rebuild is at least a bit of an indictment on the coach's ability to clearly articulate a vision and path forward, which is part of what sunk Hubert. i'm also fairly put off by his record at OKC - after his first year he never got past the first round.
 
We are going to hear a lot of "so and so is like Belichick" - and truthfully no one is like Belichick unless you can hire Pat Riley maybe 10 years ago and even that is a flawed comparison for a lot of reasons. Donovan would be a pretty big upgrade over Davis.

Given all of his south Florida connections, maybe Marco Rubio can put us in touch with Pat Riley.
 
I'm not upset by missing out on Stevens, and I'm not interested in Donovan.

Go get Otzelberger. Get him now.
He has built a program in his own image and is having great success. I'm guessing his agent is already in negotiations to extend his contract with a boost in salary and incentives.

Why in the world would he uproot his family and assistant coaches to move to UNC and deal with fan expectations to best dook** year in and year out making the FF year after year and winning multiple national titles ?
 
He has built a program in his own image and is having great success. I'm guessing his agent is already in negotiations to extend his contract with a boost in salary and incentives.

Why in the world would he uproot his family and assistant coaches to move to UNC and deal with fan expectations to best dook** year in and year out making the FF year after year and winning multiple national titles ?
Because he's not a coward and thinks he can do it at the school on the planet and the biggest stage?

And because we can probably pay double what he's making now?
 
Michael Malone had a mediocre record in the NBA and was fired last year. I don't think fans would be happy with him as a great hire to replace CHD

He had a solid NBA coaching career. One of a handful of coaches who actually has a NBA title. Well regarded in coaching circles. He was fired because he was in an all out war with the GM (who was also fired). Not a sexy pick...but I'd brig him in and pick his brain.

Think they need to go with a college guy, but I'd keep an open mind.
 
He has built a program in his own image and is having great success. I'm guessing his agent is already in negotiations to extend his contract with a boost in salary and incentives.

Why in the world would he uproot his family and assistant coaches to move to UNC and deal with fan expectations to best dook** year in and year out making the FF year after year and winning multiple national titles ?
you should take a break.

your posts on this are getting increasingly unhinged.
 
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