UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Zoo_View said:
He’s going to need replacing soon. He’s 73-74.

We have to pay his ass $10 million each year he’s coach (and his exorbitantly paid staff).

Then, we have to buy him and them out.

We’re not going 9-3 in 2026.
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Only the first 3 years of his contract are guaranteed and the contracts of his assistants are only 2-3 years long, as well.

It would only cost ~$15mil or so to fire him after 2026.

Unless you're counting the $15mil for so we're paying in 2026 as part of the $30mil, at which point keeping him for 2026 would save us the cost of the replacement coaching staff that isn't included in the $30mil.
 
Milk and Cookies said:
I am like many others here who are seemingly evaluating this coaching staff with a simple tautology -- its unsuccessful until it delivers success.

And maintaining a healthy skepticism has nothing to do with how much we love our school, how much we want them to succeed or a declaration that we know more about football than a coach. Its simply holding the people in charge accountable. Anything less than about 8 wins against this Charmin schedule while paying the amount we have for staff and players would be an unsuccessful season. Full stop. Anything less than about 9 wins next season would be unsuccessful. We are paying top dollar for this staff to win soon which is patently obvious since we hired a guy in his 70s. If we were willing to give a new coach 3 seasons before we were competitive at the top of the ACC we should have hired someone capable of being here for the next 10 years. We didn't do that. We went with a get rich quick option. Anyone trying to change the narrative into a patient 5 year rebuild is unserious.
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Less than 8 w this yr is a failure, but that doesn't mean you have to ignore positive signs when guessing the future Our D already looks rebuilt relative to past UNC teams, but more importantly it looks like we have a D coaching staff that is "doing more with less". Combine a do-more-with-less coach with a full portal season, potentially strong recruiting, and a big purse, and you have a chance at 9+ wins in season 2*.

Yes, BB botched the winter portal season. Somebody smart (like a Bubba Cunningham) could've loudly predicted that BB's total destruction of the program's personnel dept and pace of transition would mean a mediocre roster this year. But does that mean he'll not have a good portal season this winter?

*IF they can catch the offense up to the D. In terms of toughness, preparedness and fundamentals they likely will. Scheme & playcalling is obviously a question mark, QB is the ultimate wild-card.
 
Peppers49 said:
I’m talking about beating fricking Stanford, Wake Forest, and just one of Duke or State in football and some of our fans really think that’s unreasonable to expect lol. You can’t make this stuff up.
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It sounds like you are ready to just judge the season without watching games. What if we vastly outplay all the above but don't win each the above? IMO we outplayed UVA. Would all of that be meaningless? It's a game of inches with a funny shaped ball... I'm okay with one yr with a poor record if that translates to a culture change that can mean a decade of tougher teams.
 
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CFordUNC said:
Curt Cignetti took Indiana to the playoffs in year 1 with a bunch of former JMU players. And he's probably going to play for, and maybe even win, the national championship in year 2. You can absolutely very quickly turn around a program, by hiring someone who knows how to build a college roster and coach college players. If UNC hires Jon Sumrall last year, we probably get Darien Mensah, the best quarterback in the portal, and we probably have several more wins this year against the easiest schedule we've probably had in decades.

I guess my thing is I don't understand the point of us hiring Bill Belichick if the expectation was that it's okay to limp and plod along to a 4-win season this year, then try to win 7 or 8 in year two. If we were going to hire a 73-year-old coach with exactly ZERO collegiate coaching experience, then it should have been made very clear to him that it was imperative that he hire coordinators and assistant coaches, as well as player personnel staffers, who have all been highly successful in the college ranks previously. Allowing him to hire his sons, his buddies, his buddies' sons, and so on- none of whom had actual collegiate experience- was a terrible mistake.
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I agree that Jon Sumrall would've had a better roster, and therefore probably a better team, unless he couldn't change the country-club culture of the returning players and staffers and rest of the program. If not, they'd be better on paper, but still soft. QB is EVERYTHING in CFB so Mensah would've been big.

Would Matt Campbell have brought a good QB with him? If not then....

For every Cignetti (who got an awesome QB from the portal in Rourke), there's a Deon. Deon Sanders flipped his roster, had a very good QB come with him and the best player in the nation (Travis Hunter) and they eeked out 4 wins his first yr. So it isn't like roster-flipping is cake.

Still, I think simply having a better (and healthy) QB would make this a top-40 team this yr. A ton of money was thrown at Mateer, so it isn't like BB was ignoring the QB position in the winter. Didn't he want Cignetti's Mendoza too? BB likely had zero connections/relationships when all that went down and I'm not sure he had many choices in spring.
 
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Deon's NFL-bound QB his first yr was his son.
Cignetti already had Alberto Mendoza (Fernando Mendoza's big bro) on his roster. Alberto was a JMU commit that followed Cignetti.
Fran Brown's QB coach had some familial relationship with Steve Angeli (winter portal QB).
Mateer followed his prior OC/QB coach to Oklahoma
UCLA's Aguilar to Tenn was an odd thing linked-up due to Nico's exit from Tenn to UCLA.
Tony Elliot had known Chandler Morris since Morris was 10 since Tony and Chad Morris were co coordinators at Clemson.
Jake Retleff, Tulane's really good xfer QB was recruited by Sumrall before he chose BYU.
Devon Dampier transferred to Utah, following his offensive coordinator Jason Beck

And prior yrs were like this too i think:
Diego Pavia went to Vandy cuz Jerry Kill, OC Tim Beck, and fellow NMSU TE teammate TE were all going there.
Demond Williams Jr xfer'd to UW to follow Jedd Fisch
etc, etc

I suspect a majority of transfers aren't relation-ship based - like a Gio, who seem more like agent cold-call hires, but connections are huge. If BB is looking for a new OC or QB coach it would be nice to find one that is currently connected to a stud QB with remaining eligibility.
 
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