UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Callatoroy said:
change his personality and become a person who emotionally connects with his players, fires his nepotism staff, puts a short leash on his GF, begins to embrace fans, and hires a staff that he empowers to do their jobs.
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I'm not asking for him to change anything about his personality, ability to connect emotionally, do anything different regarding his gf, or change his relationship with fans.

Look at game 1, nobody in that packed crowd seemed bothered by his personality or relationship with them as a fan.

The player connection stuff sounds like sour grapes or rumor. Ask the #17 ranked recruiting class.

Changing staff is the only interesting thing from your list to me and he hinted at being open to this from the outset.

(TBH I'm having trouble take anyone seriously when the gf is stop the list of grievances, correlation != causation)
 
Oddball said:
Indiana University, who made a great hire, would like to chat.

If it seemed like this was anything other than graft, then yeah, give BB that time. But his lack of willingness to put the time and effort in (from all i can gather) and the fact that plenty of college FB teams can be remade in 1 offseason due to the portal -- it just seems rather convenient that BB (and his mouth "piece", as opposed to other "piece") would say they need another 3 years to be relevant.

Ummm, that ain't what was paid for here, and certainly not what was being sold even 2 months ago
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What evidence do you have he is not all in? That he went to Nantucket? That Ollie tweeted stuff that is BS? I have heard repeatedly from folks near the program he is working hard. They saved the recruiting class and that is work. I di agree that with portal we should be a decent football team next year. We got money.
 
Oddball said:
Indiana University, who made a great hire, would like to chat.

If it seemed like this was anything other than graft, then yeah, give BB that time. But his lack of willingness to put the time and effort in (from all i can gather) and the fact that plenty of college FB teams can be remade in 1 offseason due to the portal -- it just seems rather convenient that BB (and his mouth "piece", as opposed to other "piece") would say they need another 3 years to be relevant.

Ummm, that ain't what was paid for here, and certainly not what was being sold even 2 months ago
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I guess my sarcasm fell flat based on the couple of replies. I completely agree with you.
 
gregh1 said:
Regarding fires his staff, he directly stated upon hire it could take a yr to

Where are you getting this stuff about skipping out early? AJ says he left after practice.
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The locker room is toxic per some players. Accountability isn’t applied to certain players, the team has very poor fundamentals, effort is lacking with no accountability, coaches are detached from players, communication is woefully lacking, the girlfriend, taking off to Nantucket with the girlfriend, parents say coaches won’t communicate with them, Freddie kitchens, nepotism hires - none of that requires time and should have been non-existent from day 1
 
Callatoroy said:
The locker room is toxic per some players. Accountability isn’t applied to certain players, the team has very poor fundamentals, effort is lacking with no accountability, coaches are detached from players, communication is woefully lacking, the girlfriend, taking off to Nantucket with the girlfriend, parents say coaches won’t communicate with them, Freddie kitchens, nepotism hires - none of that requires time and should have been non-existent from day 1
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Is the lockeroom stuff rumor though? DL fundamentals look better than last yr (low bar, but it's a young group). We've determined the starting QB, so now if If offensive playcalling doesn't drastically improve in the next gm then either Kitchens needs to go or BB needs to go.

I think we should primarily just judge the performance on the field relative to the winter-portal-constrained talent.
 
PTOHeel said:
That’s what I’ve heard. We shouldn’t expect much from BB in year one. He needs time to build his program.
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Given the state of the program post Mack, i would have been fine with a rebuild season or two if we had a coach that could squeeze at least something out of a rag tag roster early, and also had experience recruiting and building rosters at the college level.

The product Belichick is putting on the field so far is legitimately some of the most pathetic football I’ve ever seen. From a personnel standpoint neither he nor his overpaid blowhard GM seem like they have any idea how to put together a competitive roster in the future either. If it’s clear that we have a coach that can’t get anywhere close to maximum potential from the players on his current roster and seems clueless about how to build better rosters in the future, what are we even doing?
 
heel79 said:
I am surprised at how much BB is disliked on here. I go to every game. Was in letterman's tents before Clemson and a halftime and have a ton of UNC fans as friend, including frat brothers and have not experienced any like this.I told this board two days ago to be wary of WRAL and Nando and was told don't shoot messenger, etc. You can dislike BB and want him gone without supporting the two news outlets that tried for seven years to destroy our athletics programs. Again, this is an attack on UNC. Nando argued for death penalty for us, published a column saying Roy Williams should resign and threw a hissy fit when nothing happened to us. I have not forgotten nor will I.
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Really?!? All of my friends are completely out and dislike pretty much everything about him. Honestly, what’s to like?
1. He’s aloof and arrogant
2. he hired his buddy for 1.5 mil as Gm, who’s a clown
3. he hired freddie kitchens at OC, who has admitted he didn’t even interview for the job and wasn’t qualified for it. Not to mention 2-4 completely other unqualified people on staff
4. We’ve been Awful, objectively the 2nd worst p4 team and the worst one fired their coach already
5. We’ve already had a coach suspended for not following rules

All this in the setting that he’s making 10 million, seemingly doesn’t understand college football, is 73 years old and has a gf 49 years his junior. He was a great coach but that point in time seems like a long time ago given his complete evaluation failure in both the pros and college the last 5 years. I have no idea why anyone is still on board
 
gregh1 said:
Is the lockeroom stuff rumor though? DL fundamentals look better than last yr (low bar, but it's a young group). We've determined the starting QB, so now if If offensive playcalling doesn't drastically improve in the next gm then either Kitchens needs to go or BB needs to go.

I think we should primarily just judge the performance on the field relative to the winter-portal-constrained talent.
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If max johnson is the starting QB, we won’t win a game
 
uncjhodges said:
Really?!? All of my friends are completely out and dislike pretty much everything about him. Honestly, what’s to like?
1. He’s aloof and arrogant
2. he hired his buddy for 1.5 mil as Gm, who’s a clown
3. he hired freddie kitchens at OC, who has admitted he didn’t even interview for the job and wasn’t qualified for it. Not to mention 2-4 completely other unqualified people on staff
4. We’ve been Awful, objectively the 2nd worst p4 team and the worst one fired their coach already
5. We’ve already had a coach suspended for not following rules

All this in the setting that he’s making 10 million, seemingly doesn’t understand college football, is 73 years old and has a gf 49 years his junior. He was a great coach but that point in time seems like a long time ago given his complete evaluation failure in both the pros and college the last 5 years. I have no idea why anyone is still on board
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Well we sold more season tickets at higher prices than ever so they liked him once. Clearly he has lost support, and I understand that. After reading Ollie bs I wanted him out that second. Just surprised people willing to gulp WRAL and Nando BS.
 
heel79 said:
Well we sold more season tickets at higher prices than ever so they liked him once. Clearly he has lost support, and I understand that. After reading Ollie bs I wanted him out that second. Just surprised people willing to gulp WRAL and Nando BS.
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i can see how people bought the grift, but the emperor has no clothes and it’s obvious. i honestly don’t know what bs wrap and Nando have produced in the last 2-3 days. seems like your ire should be with Andrew Jones and the national media, including Ollie Connelly.
 
uncjhodges said:
i can see how people bought the grift, but the emperor has no clothes and it’s obvious. i honestly don’t know what bs wrap and Nando have produced in the last 2-3 days. seems like your ire should be with Andrew Jones and the national media, including Ollie Connelly.
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Well AJ and Ollie didn't spend 7 years trying to destroy UNC. Maybe that's the difference.
 
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gregh1 said:
Regarding fires his staff, he directly stated upon hire it could take a yr to

Where are you getting this stuff about skipping out early? AJ says he left after practice.
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link?

I've seen on the sites that (1) he completely skipped practice, (2) he skipped part of practice, (3) it wasn't a real practice, just a walk through, and (4) it can't be confirmed if he skipped practice or not. I've yet to see anyone confirm that he was at all of Thursday's practice, which would be easy for one of the mutiple player parents on the sites, like Trench Fighter, to confirm if he in fact did not skip out.
 
Calheel said:
link?

I've seen on the sites that (1) he completely skipped practice, (2) he skipped part of practice, (3) it wasn't a real practice, just a walk through, and (4) it can't be confirmed if he skipped practice or not. I've yet to see anyone confirm that he was at all of Thursday's practice, which would be easy for one of the mutiple player parents on the sites, like Trench Fighter, to confirm if he in fact did not skip out.
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Who is saying any of (1), (2), or (3)? Random posters or IC/247 staff?
 
Calheel said:
link?

I've seen on the sites that (1) he completely skipped practice, (2) he skipped part of practice, (3) it wasn't a real practice, just a walk through, and (4) it can't be confirmed if he skipped practice or not. I've yet to see anyone confirm that he was at all of Thursday's practice, which would be easy for one of the mutiple player parents on the sites, like Trench Fighter, to confirm if he in fact did not skip out.
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Haven’t Seen or heard from TrenchFighter this week. There was also an ominous sentence in the Ic report about substantial concerns of players of varying importance moving on (from football or just moving on from the team) and I thought of Blaske
 
Calheel said:
I'm not going to do a search of the 1,000 posts about this subject, but it has been posted by multiple posters and not just randos. If AJ has specifically refuted this claim, as Greg said, I'd like a link.
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Not allowed to post premium content here, but AJ talks about it in his thread AJ: A Statement, 25 Words, Alignment and...?

I've yet to see anyone credible (IC/247 staff) say that he skipped out of town while anything with the program was happening, and I've read the threads. If you find anyone credible saying what you're saying then please link.
 
uncjhodges said:
Really?!? All of my friends are completely out and dislike pretty much everything about him. Honestly, what’s to like?
1. He’s aloof and arrogant
2. he hired his buddy for 1.5 mil as Gm, who’s a clown
3. he hired freddie kitchens at OC, who has admitted he didn’t even interview for the job and wasn’t qualified for it. Not to mention 2-4 completely other unqualified people on staff
4. We’ve been Awful, objectively the 2nd worst p4 team and the worst one fired their coach already
5. We’ve already had a coach suspended for not following rules

All this in the setting that he’s making 10 million, seemingly doesn’t understand college football, is 73 years old and has a gf 49 years his junior. He was a great coach but that point in time seems like a long time ago given his complete evaluation failure in both the pros and college the last 5 years. I have no idea why anyone is still on board
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The drama surrounding his girlfriend is, in itself, a noteworthy and undesirable thing.

—The two of them attempting to copyright the phrase “Golddigger” to sell merch??
—The weird interview(s) where she’s coaching him and steering things?
—Her constant presence on the sideline in search of the TV spotlight?

It’s an icky and in-your-face assault on good taste and good judgment. And it gives the impression of a 70-something dude who just wants attention and is trying his best to look appealing and young—without putting in the work to actually win games or be appealing to fans.
 
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