UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Enigma94 said:
Mack fielded the worst defense in the P4 for most of his tenure. Without Sam and Drake to bail him out his record would have been much worse. This team had nobody like Sam or Drake. What makes you think the defense wouldn't have been absolutely putrid like it always was under his leadership?
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this year's UNC defense ranked 91st in FEI. that's worse than 4 out of 6 of Mack's teams (the 2023 team ranked 94th, the 2022 team ranked 119th). So I don't have to think the defense wouldn't have been absolutely putrid to imagine that a less stubborn approach at QB and a college-fit OC would be worth 2 games.

don't get it twisted, i am the furthest thing from a Mack Brown fan and i celebrated HARD the day Bubba announced he wouldn't be coming back. but let's not pretend like belichick hasn't been worse.
 
akillesheel said:
this year's UNC defense ranked 91st in FEI. that's worse than 4 out of 6 of Mack's teams (the 2023 team ranked 94th, the 2022 team ranked 119th). So I don't have to think the defense wouldn't have been absolutely putrid to imagine that a less stubborn approach at QB and a college-fit OC would be worth 2 games.

don't get it twisted, i am the furthest thing from a Mack Brown fan and i celebrated HARD the day Bubba announced he wouldn't be coming back. but let's not pretend like belichick hasn't been worse.
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That 91st is before the last game calculated too I believe. so, let that sink in. The thing Bellichick did “well” this year was worse than almost all of Mack Brown’s 2.0 defenses
 
A friend just texted me the following:
This season the UNC offense was held under 300 total yards in 8 of 12 games.
In the 10 prior seasons (120 games), UNC was held under 300 total yards in only 9 games!

That's insane....Throw out everything including the Kitchen sink.
 
While I absolutely do believe that Freddie Kitchens should no longer be our OC, and obviously endorse making a change there, what I’m afraid of is that the offensive issues that plague our program run deeper than simply poor play calling by the OC and that simply changing OC’s for the sake of change itself will be rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. What I mean by that is, I think that the problem with the offense is that the style of offense that Bill Belichick wants is exactly what we saw this year: a vanilla, slow tempo, risk-averse, unimaginative, ball control offense that minimizes possessions and runs a low risk of turning the ball over. I think that style of offense is at least a decade or more antiquated in college football. So we can change OC, and we can bring in somebody who has previous experience calling college games as OC, but unless we change our fundamental bedrock offensive philosophy- which would almost assuredly require the head coach who is infamous for his refusal to relinquish control or change/adapt his preferred methods and styles of play- I think we’ll be right back here next year this time. Sure, the offense may look “less bad”- maybe it will crack the top 80 instead of the top 120- but my fear is that it wouldn’t be enough to dramatically lift the low ceiling that the Belichick experiment has currently placed on the program.
 
akillesheel said:
this year's UNC defense ranked 91st in FEI. that's worse than 4 out of 6 of Mack's teams (the 2023 team ranked 94th, the 2022 team ranked 119th). So I don't have to think the defense wouldn't have been absolutely putrid to imagine that a less stubborn approach at QB and a college-fit OC would be worth 2 games.

don't get it twisted, i am the furthest thing from a Mack Brown fan and i celebrated HARD the day Bubba announced he wouldn't be coming back. but let's not pretend like belichick hasn't been worse.
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Sp+ D is 63rd including the last gm, Mack didn't sniff that. And remove the first half of the season while coaches are figuring out what they have and the numbers would be very different.

Wake, a good D team gave up 49 the week after it took some luck for Duke, a top 25 O to get 32 on us.
 
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akillesheel said:
As I've said multiple times, Gio made a perfectly serviceable OL look much much worse because of his bad pocket movement, slow processing, and, until the last month of the season, inability to get the ball out quickly even when he knew where to go with it. Under Mack, one of the two freshmen who were here for spring ball and had a better understanding of his offense undoubtedly gets the nod at quarterback and mitigates that problem immensely.

Add that to the fact that Mack hired legitimate college OC's and yeah, I'm pretty sure that's worth two wins.
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So rookie QB and different OC means improved O overall, I can buy that guesswork even though we know nothing about the QBs. Now recall that Mack ALWAYS played down to the competition, was actually worse in penalties than BB, especially offensive, and his teams sputtered energy-wise the second half of the season. He absolutely would've lost the Stanford gm.
 
For those that went to the games maybe you can correct me if this is off, but one thing I noticed during the games is that BB rarely interacted with the players. Love or hate Mack, one thing he did was actually coach the players during games. Often, Mack would gently point out a mistake but then would try to instill confidence. I would have thought that BB would regularly point things out to players. Did not seem to happen much if at all.
 
IllegalMotion9999 said:
For those that went to the games maybe you can correct me if this is off, but one thing I noticed during the games is that BB rarely interacted with the players. Love or hate Mack, one thing he did was actually coach the players during games. Often, Mack would gently point out a mistake but then would try to instill confidence. I would have thought that BB would regularly point things out to players. Did not seem to happen much if at all.
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I did not see BB interact with much of anyone on the sideline. I interacted with him as much as I could from 50 rows over his head. I'm sure many in front of me didn't appreciate the interactions. "Bill, you absolutely SUCK!" was probably the most common.
 
IllegalMotion9999 said:
For those that went to the games maybe you can correct me if this is off, but one thing I noticed during the games is that BB rarely interacted with the players. Love or hate Mack, one thing he did was actually coach the players during games. Often, Mack would gently point out a mistake but then would try to instill confidence. I would have thought that BB would regularly point things out to players. Did not seem to happen much if at all.
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If it wasn't on his iPad, he didn't interact. It was so bizarre. Never seen anything like it at the collegiate level.
 
gregh1 said:
So rookie QB and different OC means improved O overall, I can buy that guesswork even though we know nothing about the QBs. Now recall that Mack ALWAYS played down to the competition, was actually worse in penalties than BB, especially offensive, and his teams sputtered energy-wise the second half of the season. He absolutely would've lost the Stanford gm.
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Syracuse and Stanford should have looked like last year's FSU and UVA games. all four teams were horrifically bad in the trenches, all but FSU were playing at a serious talent deficit, and all but UVA had pretty much given up on the season. instead, Bill couldn't muster a halftime lead against either, including actually losing at half to a freshman lacrosse player, and gave Stanford its smallest margin of loss against competition not named Hawai'i or San Jose State.

i genuinely can't believe i'm spending this much energy defending Mack Brown but it's just unbelievable how thick the Bill Blinders are.
 
stankeylegjones said:
I think he would've been a good fit at UNC.

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outside of a brief time period when he was on the Bengals, never lived or coached east of Utah. He is not a good fit for Penn state and wouldn’t be a good fit for us either
 
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