He supposed to visit SCAR too.
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All this "bridge" talk is annoying because it is purely based on timing and ignores $. This goes for the QB position, the 39 incoming frosh and everyone else that we hope is being developed for the sake of 2027. There is nothing keeping kids here just because someone said they're an heir to PT. If they're good they're going to cost $.
BB needs to prove now that he's the "do more with less" coach we need and are paying thru the nose for right now.
BB needs to prove now that he's the "do more with less" coach we need and are paying thru the nose for right now.
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I'd be really curious to see what the "hit rate" is on OL's that transfer from FCS to P4. That's one position where I think you have to be exceptionally careful about taking lower level players because you just cannot teach or replicate at the FCS levels (or sometimes even at the lower G5 levels, for that matter) the kind of physicality and strength it takes to compete week in and week out in the trenches against P4 teams. I think that taking multi-year stating skill position players from FCS probably has a pretty solid rate of success, but I'm wary of taking OL from that level, even one that is a multi-year starter.
How many QBs do you want on the roster? We now have Edwards, Gio, Newkirk and Burgess. And you are suggesting a second transfer. And then you want to keep Baker, too? No team can roster six QBs in this NIL era -- that is a massive misallocation of resources. Four plus a couple of no NIL guys (walkons in the old era) is the maximum a team should carry. It had to be either Baker or Newkirk, not both.
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Imo, the Bryce Baker transfer says it all about building primarily through HS recruits.
You just can't rely on those kids as your primary talent source. First and most obviously there are tons of misses talent evaluation wise, and that is across the board for all teams.
But now, lets say BB can develop some of those HS players such that we could legitimately compete in their junior years (and that is optimistic as many would necessarily redshirt, so back that up another year) -- the best players of those would just get poached by bigger and better paying programs.
My hope had been that BB and Lombardi would be able to better assess the collegiate talent and use their "NFL" card (and cash) to convince transfers that we would be their best and fastest path to the NFL.
But both BB and Lombardi have basically said that is not their plan, so
You just can't rely on those kids as your primary talent source. First and most obviously there are tons of misses talent evaluation wise, and that is across the board for all teams.
But now, lets say BB can develop some of those HS players such that we could legitimately compete in their junior years (and that is optimistic as many would necessarily redshirt, so back that up another year) -- the best players of those would just get poached by bigger and better paying programs.
My hope had been that BB and Lombardi would be able to better assess the collegiate talent and use their "NFL" card (and cash) to convince transfers that we would be their best and fastest path to the NFL.
But both BB and Lombardi have basically said that is not their plan, so
That was the argument I made to @SnoopRob last year. He countered that the best teams are all built through HS recruiting (Georgia, Ohio St, Bama, etc.). My counter was that we could not emulate that model, and would be better to copy the Texas Tech, Indiana model.Imo, the Bryce Baker transfer says it all about building primarily through HS recruits.
You just can't rely on those kids as your primary talent source. First and most obviously there are tons of misses talent evaluation wise, and that is across the board for all teams.
But now, lets say BB can develop some of those HS players such that we could legitimately compete in their junior years (and that is optimistic as many would necessarily redshirt, so back that up another year) -- the best players of those would just get poached by bigger and better paying programs.
My hope had been that BB and Lombardi would be able to better assess the collegiate talent and use their "NFL" card (and cash) to convince transfers that we would be their best and fastest path to the NFL.
But both BB and Lombardi have basically said that is not their plan, so
Of course, the problem with building through the portal is that it takes more money than we apparently have.
IC actually seems excited about him. Had visit to FSU and supposedly bhas interest from some SEC schools
You give the benefit of the doubt to EVERY move the staff makes. I understand being Charlie Brown with UNC football, I do. I try to look at things as optimistically as possible, too. But what has the current administration done to date to engender such optimism in your takes. I'm not saying you need to be Debbie Downer in response to every move, but I'm not sure you've posted one critical or skeptical comment about a UNC football move in the last three months.
Well I have questioned the decision to build team through recruiting and not portal. I called for BB to go on Wednesday after Clemson based on what turned out to be erroneous reporting about buyout talks, staff mutiny, locker room chaos. I have said a loss of key players in portal would be red flag. But yes, I am a glass half full guy. There are plenty on here who never say a positive word. That said, the post you quoted was basically objective stuff. What about that post was overly rosy? You have option to ignore etc. Sorry it bothers you
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How many players did Cignetti bring with him to Indiana who he recruited out of HS and built up while at JMU?
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Yes they do, and they beat Saban in his first year at Alabama.
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I think it was 13.
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If it’s true that we have somewhat limited resources, I actually think this is a better use of resources than spending a lot of money on a WR. Wide receiver is probably the easiest position from which to transfer from FCS to P4, and decent receivers are essentially a dime a dozen in the transfer portal. Much better to deploy resources on the OL, IMO.
Surely you know why I posted it like that?
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That is a significant amount, also skewing the transfer portal number. I think I remember hearing that basically the entire staff came with him too.
It doesn’t bother me, but I think as a journalist you should be a little more objective in your takes. At some point, your perceived need to be a counterweight to doom and gloom makes you come off as a bit Pollyanna-ish.
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Ii thought that but didn't post as there was plenty of the criticism already. I don't know if this thing will work or not. But I do think if BB and Petrino get some talent we will win.
K being serious when I say this. I don't feel a need to talk about Jordan, Bills age, and whatever. There is plenty of that on here. Yuu do know there are those on here who frame every good thing in a negative fashion as well and they outnumber me. I'm not here as a journalist I am here as a UNC fan who supports players and coaches until I dint think they deserve it. Case in point BB's timeout against wake was stupid. He also blew his answer in the PC. When asked he could have said wake was still running offense, our defense was gassed, and I challenged then ti get a stop using it as practice. But he blew it.
Ii thought that but didn't post as there was plenty of the criticism already. I don't know if this thing will work or not. But I do think if BB and Petrino get some talent we will win.
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Honestly I think it may have gone over my head. Sometimes I’m slow on the uptake