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It was almost exactly 25 years ago when Jackie Manuel committed to UNC. I’m pretty sure it was July 2000, right after Doherty got hired.
It was. I remember it well. Some wing player I never heard of had committed. It turns out that he was unstoppable from the mid range at one of the summer camps. He kept banging shot after shot in off the glass.

I remember thinking: that doesn't sound like a good shooter. That sounds like a guy on a hot streak. Sigh. But it did work out for us in the end.
 
It was. I remember it well. Some wing player I never heard of had committed. It turns out that he was unstoppable from the mid range at one of the summer camps. He kept banging shot after shot in off the glass.

I remember thinking: that doesn't sound like a good shooter. That sounds like a guy on a hot streak. Sigh. But it did work out for us in the end.
It was sort of out of nowhere, as it happened right after Doherty was hired and Guthridge had not been recruiting him. He had just shot up in the rankings after his performance in the summer camps (do those still exist?).

Doherty turned his attention away from the guys Gut had been recruiting the hardest (James White, Julius Hodge, Jamal Sampson) and quickly landed Jackie Manuel and Jawad Williams. At least he stuck with the strategy of recruiting guys whose first names start with the letter “J.”
 
It was sort of out of nowhere, as it happened right after Doherty was hired and Guthridge had not been recruiting him. He had just shot up in the rankings after his performance in the summer camps (do those still exist?).

Doherty turned his attention away from the guys Gut had been recruiting the hardest (James White, Julius Hodge, Jamal Sampson) and quickly landed Jackie Manuel and Jawad Williams. At least he stuck with the strategy of recruiting guys whose first names start with the letter “J.”
That's not quite how I remember it. James White chose Florida. We panicked, as we didn't have any good backup options. There was Jawad Williams, who was either committed to Maryland or seen as a heavy, heavy Maryland lean. When we offered, he listened. Jackie committed in July. I thought Melvin Scott was next -- based on a lights-out shooting performance in a single week of camp (I was NOT fond of this pattern) -- and then Jawad came through around Labor Day, IIRC.

I thought we were in with Jamal Sampson until the end, but he was always going to be a hard get out of CA.
 
What type of concern? What about the roster build is causing concern? To me, the roster looks pretty solid. I haven't seen the guys play, of course, but is that the point -- the players aren't good enough?
I think the major concern is if Evans can run the point position. Another is being able to create individual offense.
 
It looks like they will probably have 3 Q1 non-conference games. If the ACC is as weak as it has been the past couple of years, they might not have that many Q1 opportunities.
 
It looks like they will probably have 3 Q1 non-conference games. If the ACC is as weak as it has been the past couple of years, they might not have that many Q1 opportunities.
Current preseason has dook, U of L, and state as Q1 AFAIK - anybody else?
 
I think the major concern is if Evans can run the point position. Another is being able to create individual offense.


Heard Coach Bill Robinson talking about Evans on the Locked On Tar Heels channel. He's the head coach at Milligan in TN and has worked the basketball camp for years (20?). He reported on the player/alumni scrimmages and said he felt good about Evans as a pass first point with a good instinct for getting everyone involved.
 
That's not quite how I remember it. James White chose Florida. We panicked, as we didn't have any good backup options. There was Jawad Williams, who was either committed to Maryland or seen as a heavy, heavy Maryland lean. When we offered, he listened. Jackie committed in July. I thought Melvin Scott was next -- based on a lights-out shooting performance in a single week of camp (I was NOT fond of this pattern) -- and then Jawad came through around Labor Day, IIRC.

I thought we were in with Jamal Sampson until the end, but he was always going to be a hard get out of CA.
I’m pretty sure Doherty pretty much stopped recruiting him, and landing Manuel pretty much meant he wasn’t going to be a target anymore.

I’m also pretty sure Scott was the last of that class to commit. I found a Greensboro News & Record article that looks like it was originally published on September 6, 2000 that reported that Jawad Williams was set to pick UNC at a news conference he scheduled for that day. I found another News & Record article that appears it was published on September 13, 2000 that reported that “Melvin Scott has said that he is close to committing to UNC.” I also found some undated articles that report Williams’s commitment and how he’s joining Jackie Manuel, but they don’t mention Scott.

ETA: it might be inaccurate to say that Doherty stopped recruiting White completely, but I think he no lounger prioritized him. Apparently UF felt a little stung when Manuel—a FL native— picked UNC over UF.
 
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I’m pretty sure Doherty pretty much stopped recruiting him, and landing Manuel pretty much meant he wasn’t going to be a target anymore.

I’m also pretty sure Scott was the last of that class to commit. I found a Greensboro News & Record article that looks like it was originally published on September 6, 2000 that reported that Jawad Williams was set to pick UNC at a news conference he scheduled for that day. I found another News & Record article that appears it was published on September 13, 2000 that reported that “Melvin Scott has said that he is close to committing to UNC.” I also found some undated articles that report Williams’s commitment and how he’s joining Jackie Manuel, but they don’t mention Scott.
Interesting. Maybe Scott was a UNC lean for a while. What I remember is that Jawad went from Maryland lean to UNC commit in the flash of an eye. So we thought we were going to get Scott for a while, and then Jawad swooped in for the second spot. But it was a long time ago.

Edit: now that I think about it, yeah Melvin was a later commit. He was the guy to round out the class, and a lot of us weren't sure he was the right guy to round out the class. Our inability to get a big man in that cycle or the next cost us Chris Paul.
 
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Wasn’t Sean May (and Felton, the Unnamed One, etc.) in the class after Williams, Manuel, and Scott?

May seems like a pretty good big.

Pretty certain that Chris Paul didn’t come here because Felton was here and Doherty might have even told Paul that Felton was the PG. It’s been a long time and the details are fuzzy.
 
Have heard concerns on several fronts: positional fit, concerns, lack of continuity, fit with HD's intended style of play, overall quality of guys (how many are legit better than ACC average at their position).
 
Wasn’t Sean May (and Felton, the Unnamed One, etc.) in the class after Williams, Manuel, and Scott?

May seems like a pretty good big.

Pretty certain that Chris Paul didn’t come here because Felton was here and Doherty might have even told Paul that Felton was the PG. It’s been a long time and the details are fuzzy.
Yes, but May was the only big, and if you recall, he missed a lot of his freshman year with a foot injury. And May wanted to be more of a four, and we kind of wanted him to be a four. We were using David Noel as a four.

Doherty was on Scott Padgett and Brian Butch hard. We needed to get one of those, but we only had two scholarships available and one had been extended to Reyshawn Terry. Both of them took their sweet time to decide. Meanwhile, Chris Paul really broke out the summer of his junior year (the classic IC thread was "people keep going to watch Reyshawn Terry and coming back talking about Chris Paul) and wasn't yet considered a top, top prospect. He wanted to come to UNC, but all Doh could do was offer him the Lee Melchionni plan (i.e. walk on year 1, get a scholarship year 2).

That's how I remember it, at least. And while it was kind of silly to offer Paul the chance to walk on, we really didn't have many choices at the time. We really needed a big man, or that's how it seemed at the time. If May had gotten hurt again, we would have been fucked. Fortunately . . .

I don't think it would have been too hard to find room for Paul, Felton and Shad. Size would be a problem, but I'd rather have CP3 then a 6'6" guy who couldn't possibly guard him.
 
Have heard concerns on several fronts: positional fit, concerns, lack of continuity, fit with HD's intended style of play, overall quality of guys (how many are legit better than ACC average at their position).
Are you reading this from IC or what is the source of this concern?
 
IIRC, we got Jawad after missing on James White and David Lee (reportedly at the time Jawad was holding out on a MD commitment for a UNC offer).

Similarly, Scott had a back-up UNC offer if we missed on DuJuan Wagner & Julius Hodge (maybe one other?), which we did.

I followed Jawad’s recruitment more closely in part b/c in Ohio he had played with/knew a HS sophomore (or frosh?) phenom named LeBron James. I recall Jawad being asked about any insight in to LeBron’s recruitment and he said something like “man, he ain’t going to college”.

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PS — Spellcheck kept changing “Jawad” to “Jews” or “Jewad” — Let me know if I missed correcting one.
 
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Have heard concerns on several fronts: positional fit, concerns, lack of continuity, fit with HD's intended style of play, overall quality of guys (how many are legit better than ACC average at their position).
Time will tell. Summer reports have always been notoriously bad.
 
Yeah, if they're not retired stockbrokers sending messages from their yachts, I'm not sure I'd believe they have the information or skill to put this together.
 
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