UNC Men’s Basketball 2025-2026

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C-Money said:
Need a top 3 finish in the ACC and the Sweet 16 in the tourney for Hubert to stay.
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I think that's about where most of the preseason prognostications have us, so sounds pretty reasonable.

I know Coach Davis and all our players would be pretty dissatisfied with that outcome...most fans probably too.
 
Calheel said:
It in part reflects that MCDs are a less important part of team construction in 2025. Henri and Luka weren’t eligible for that game but will be bigger contributors this year than most MCD alumni in college.
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Also, top players reclassifying (essentially skipping their senior years) is a fairly recent phenomenon. Those players don’t play in McD’s AA games. Guys like Elliot Cadeau and Jarin Stevenson most likely would have been McD’s AAs had they not reclassified.
 
Centerpiece said:
Seems sobering… but how many Mickey D’s were on last years title winner? How many on the title team the year before that?
What’s the average number of McDonald’s AA’s on an NCAA championship team? 2? 3? 4? Or perhaps only one?
What was the last team to win it all which had zero McDonald’s AA on the roster?
Do you have to have a McDonald AA on the squad to get a top 4 seed?
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I think the number of McD’s AAs on a roster is more meaningless in this era of the portal.
 
Icky Mettle said:
I think the number of McD’s AAs on a roster is more meaningless in this era of the portal.
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Agree. I asked those questions rhetorically. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of only one Mickey D (or even none) on an NCAA champ. UCONN had only one last year: Castle.
 
Seems to me, and I have truly given this very little thought at all, that talent is being judged on pro potential ( not wrong ,fwiw) but results on the college level are depending a lot more on physical maturity. It makes recruiting more of a crapshoot since you have to look at how ready they are for the physical game and college life, a weakness for both Cadeau and Stephenson early on, and emphasizes the portal more. It also minimizes the effects of long term coaching and development in exchange for shorter term gain. It's not an ideal situation for the way we've run our program. Maybe we do have to change our ways . Not sure I'll like it but I'm just one tiny voice that doesn't much matter.
 
Centerpiece said:
Agree. I asked those questions rhetorically. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of only one Mickey D (or even none) on an NCAA champ. UCONN had only one last year: Castle.
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It is interesting to look back at the UNC players who were good enough to become All-ACC selections and who played high school ball during the McDonald’s AA era. Only a handful of those players who were not McDonald’s AAs went on to become All-ACC selections (whether first, second, or third team): Steve Hale, Rick Fox, Hubert Davis, Dante Calabria, Shammond Williams, David Noel, Reyshawn Terry (he was one of six players to make third team All-ACC in 2006), Brice Johnson (who also went in to be a first team AA), Luke Maye (who also went on to become a third team AA), Cam Johnson, and Garrison Brooks.
 
So is there some issue with Luka’s visa now? I’ve seen a few random posts about it on social media but not sure if there is an actual issue or I’m just missing an inside joke / gallows humor while UNC waits for NCAA clearance?
 
Icky Mettle said:
Also, top players reclassifying (essentially skipping their senior years) is a fairly recent phenomenon. Those players don’t play in McD’s AA games. Guys like Elliot Cadeau and Jarin Stevenson most likely would have been McD’s AAs had they not reclassified.
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I wonder how this impacts players long term, especially those that don't end up making the pros. Was it worth it to miss out on the memories of a senior year?
 
nycfan said:
So is there some issue with Luka’s visa now? I’ve seen a few random posts about it on social media but not sure if there is an actual issue or I’m just missing an inside joke / gallows humor while UNC waits for NCAA clearance?
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There's no telling considering the current climate with visas, colleges, etc. Who would have ever foretold a situation where our government was the enemy of education as it currently is.
 
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Caleb Wilson was Carolina's top player at number 90. Kentucky had five players ranked higher than that. dook had 4 higher. Elliott Cadeau was ranked 51. Henry Veesaar was 102. Ian Jackson 128. Tyler Nickel 130. Seth Trimble 169. Jarin Stevenson 401. Luka Bogavac 436. Kyan Evans 509, but also projected as the 9th best 3FG% at 39.7%.
 
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duluoz said:
Yes, right. You said they “*made the play in” implying they did not make the tournament, and you smugly thought you were correcting the poster you quoted, when in fact that poster’s quote was accurate. Because they did, in fact, make the tournament.

Nobody said anything about tourney wins, except you just now.

Move goalposts much, when you’re wrong but can’t gracefully admit it?
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Right. If you don't think there is difference, then you can group them all together.

There is a reason that play-in tournament game win does not count as a tournament win whether you think the play-in is the tournament.

The 2024-25 season dis not earn a tournament Berth.
 
Centerpiece said:
I just think it’s not “Hubert can’t coach” but perhaps Hubert can’t recruit.
And that point may not be all his fault. But the fact is, we haven’t had top 20 talent so there should be no wonder we haven’t had top 20 teams.

Hopefully the roster this year has 2 or 3 studs and we roll. That’s all I’m hoping for.
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I know I’ve been a broken record about this, but I believe Hubert’s stubborn insistence on reinstating Dean Smith’s policy of the team running sprints if anyone utters a curse word at practice is a problem for a lot of today’s recruits. In that way he’s still trying to run it like a high school program, and kids don’t want to be punished for a profane exclamation when they miss a shot. They think it’s being treated like children.

I think his recruiting problems are a product of this sort of approach. Kids these days just aren’t here for that shit. Punishing the whole team for saying words they’ve grown up hearing at home their whole lives, for words straight from the music they have heard forever? That just comes across as Hubert imposing his religious beliefs on these kids and one-and-done NBA-ready recruits don’t want to hear it.
 
farce© said:
I know I’ve been a broken record about this, but I believe Hubert’s stubborn insistence on reinstating Dean Smith’s policy of the team running sprints if anyone utters a curse word at practice is a problem for a lot of today’s recruits. In that way he’s still trying to run it like a high school program, and kids don’t want to be punished for a profane exclamation when they miss a shot. They think it’s being treated like children.

I think his recruiting problems are a product of this sort of approach. Kids these days just aren’t here for that shit. Punishing the whole team for saying words they’ve grown up hearing at home their whole lives, for words straight from the music they have heard forever? That just comes across as Hubert imposing his religious beliefs on these kids and one-and-done NBA-ready recruits don’t want to hear it.
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I agree with the sentiment about today's players and what they want/expect, and figure that is part of what has impeded Hubert from recruiting as well as I would have expected. And, to be clear, I do not share his ability to refrain from vulgarities, and nor do my kids...

That said, I do see a benefit from such discipline. There is so much emotion and anger and energy in a hard fought game, and being able to control your emotions (or verbal expressions thereof) is a pretty big part of winning at the highest level. If these kids can keep from cursing in practice, then hopefully they can keep their composure when shit goes bad in cameron, lenovo, wherever.

Also -- my guess is Sheed's teammates ran more than a few windsprints for Coach Smith! 🤣
 
farce© said:
for words straight from the music they have heard forever? That just comes across as Hubert imposing his religious beliefs on these kids and one-and-done NBA-ready recruits don’t want to hear it.
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Their parents might, though.
 
farce© said:
I know I’ve been a broken record about this, but I believe Hubert’s stubborn insistence on reinstating Dean Smith’s policy of the team running sprints if anyone utters a curse word at practice is a problem for a lot of today’s recruits. In that way he’s still trying to run it like a high school program, and kids don’t want to be punished for a profane exclamation when they miss a shot. They think it’s being treated like children.

I think his recruiting problems are a product of this sort of approach. Kids these days just aren’t here for that shit. Punishing the whole team for saying words they’ve grown up hearing at home their whole lives, for words straight from the music they have heard forever? That just comes across as Hubert imposing his religious beliefs on these kids and one-and-done NBA-ready recruits don’t want to hear it.
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Didn’t know there were consequences for cussing today, but it’s not surprising since Coach is from the old school. It’s his way or the Highway I guess. We’ve all played for coaches like that. (I guess you guys all played, right?)

Ever since cable TV - and cussing was happening all the time on the tube, coupled with the music of the times - colorful language has been a part of the everyday lexicon for decades. When I lived in Europe in the 1980’s, and hung out with Brits and Irish folk, I had no idea that the word fuck could be used as most every part of speech there is in the English language (for fuck’s sake!). When I returned Stateside talking like a sailor I didn’t bat an eye… but I had enough sense not to speak like that in front of my grandmother. I had more respect.

If Hubert commands and demands respect like that, so be it. It’s his show. I notice Theo, Joel Berry, etc. - tons of guys who played for Roy and asst. coach Davis - didn’t and don’t seem to have a problem with that type of discipline. Did Roy tolerate cussing? Or did he make them run too? Do you know? Is that why Kessler transferred? He wanted to play for a coach who would let him cuss freely? (JK 😎)
 
Centerpiece said:
If Hubert commands and demands respect like that, so be it. It’s his show. I notice Theo, Joel Berry, etc. - tons of guys who played for Roy and asst. coach Davis - didn’t and don’t seem to have a problem with that type of discipline. Did Roy tolerate cussing? Or did he make them run too? Do you know? Is that why Kessler transferred? He wanted to play for a coach who would let him cuss freely? (JK 😎)
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This article I linked in my comment addresses that. Roy did not punish kids for cussing, because he was know to use colorful language himself. Hubert went back to the old Dean Smith approach from a long gone era when he took over for Roy.
 
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