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SmilingJack said:
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Washington & Brown are the only players 6'10" and to be honest neither are what I was hoping could be... centers. You don't have to be 7' to play center but it sure as hell helps. We're without any inside presence and everyone knows it. What's your point? You saying you can coach up a scheme for smaller players to play bigger? A 7'4" player, even a not so good player, is still better than 6'8"-10".
Of course JMHO.
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I was really trying to understand your point since you said we have no bigs and there are 5 recruited interior players on the roster.

I'm not sure that we'd really be better off if one of our interior bigs was a big, lumbering 80s style center. In today's space-oriented game, I think he'd simply get run off the court. It would probably help a bit with rebounding, but I think we'd likely get killed on defense.

Under Roy we dominated inside on a consistent basis, but we often did it with guys who were 6'9" or 6'10" but who knew how to protect the interior and to rebound their tails off. We could certainly use at least one of those players this year, but unfortunately we were unable to snag one from the guys we looked at in the portal. And I'm not sure that we're teaching rebounding as a foundational principle as we did under Roy.
 
SnoopRob said:
I was really trying to understand your point since you said we have no bigs and there are 5 recruited interior players on the roster.

I'm not sure that we'd really be better off if one of our interior bigs was a big, lumbering 80s style center. In today's space-oriented game, I think he'd simply get run off the court. It would probably help a bit with rebounding, but I think we'd likely get killed on defense.

Under Roy we dominated inside on a consistent basis, but we often did it with guys who were 6'9" or 6'10" but who knew how to protect the interior and to rebound their tails off. We could certainly use at least one of those players this year, but unfortunately we were unable to snag one from the guys we looked at in the portal. And I'm not sure that we're teaching rebounding as a foundational principle as we did under Roy.
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Really which is it? Do it a new way or just like under Roy. I'm just saying our lack of interior players seems like a problem to me but like I said it's just my opinion. I'm not sure if I buy HD forgot "rebounding as a foundational principle" in a few years if ever?
Makes me think your mind is already made up so whatever goes counter to your more prescient understanding of the game is just flat out wrong. So be it.
 
SmilingJack said:
Really which is it? Do it a new way or just like under Roy. I'm just saying our lack of interior players seems like a problem to me but like I said it's just my opinion. I'm not sure if I buy HD forgot "rebounding as a foundational principle" in a few years if ever?
Makes me think your mind is already made up so whatever goes counter to your more prescient understanding of the game is just flat out wrong. So be it.
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I think you're looking for an anti-HD argument in the question I asked you and my response to you that just isn't there. Nothing in my question or response was meant to be pro- or anti-HD. I was merely trying to understand your point that we don't have any bigs when we clearly have interior oriented players and then I was providing a response to suggest that I'm not sure we really need a 7-footer over a guy who is around 6'9" but can successfully play inside.

It seems that your view of me completely overtook what I actually asked and said, so instead of responding to actual me you responded to the me that you created in your head.

But to address your concerns in this post. Our lack of strong interior play this year is obviously a concern. I thought we'd miss Bacot when he was gone, but I had no idea how much we'd miss him due to a lack of anyone to realistically replace him as an inside force.

I don't think HD "forgot" rebounding as a foundational principle as much as he intentionally moved away from it. He made it clear when he was hired that his schemes focus much more on bigs that are able to defend in space and to step out to the perimeter on offense, especially at the 4. And so his recruiting has focused much more on athletic bigs who aren't as focused on interior scoring, rebounding, and defense. Even with Bacot, a Roy-style and recruited player, we didn't focus on rebounding as much as we had under Roy. Now without Bacot or a similar replacement, we are seeing the results of the de-emphasis on traditional interior rebounding/scoring/defense. The real problem for HD is that he's also not created a team that can succeed with a lessened emphasis on interior play by significantly increasing the production from our guards and from outside shooting. Now, I don't think he intended to have quite the hole in the middle that we've shown this year, but he's not successfully done anything to address the lack of consistent interior production nor the lack of outside/guard production. And when you aren't getting production inside or outside, that doesn't leave many options for succeess.
 
Peppers49 said:
You clearly have a ton of disdain for our fan base. Have you considered finding another team to root for?
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Not all of our fan base. Just the nitwits who trash our players and coaches after all of our losses and most of our wins. It's pretty much the same percentage of people with distorted life perspectives as there in other fan bases.

Why are you so defensive though?
 
TarSpiel said:
lol...he mentions rebounding all the freaking time as one of the most important things we need to do to be successful.
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Dude, I addressed how HD has moved away from rebounding as a priority via player recruitment and scheme.

Whatever HD says about rebounding, he's certainly moved away from a traditional focus on it.
 
TarSpiel said:
Not all of our fan base. Just the nitwits who trash our players and coaches after all of our losses and most of our wins. It's pretty much the same percentage of people with distorted life perspectives as there in other fan bases.

Why are you so defensive though?
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Every single one of your posts includes a tantrum about how our fans are idiots or nitwits or whatever. Maybe take a look in the mirror one time.
 
Peppers49 said:
Every single one of your posts includes a tantrum about how our fans are idiots or nitwits or whatever. Maybe take a look in the mirror one time.
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Well, that's empirically not true, but it again makes me wonder why you're so defensive

The posts that do express that perspective are often in response to the "Hubert Davis Sucks Fire Him" types of posts, so you might want to check the context.
 
SnoopRob said:
Are the blue hairs going to be able to make it with all this snow?
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I understand your concern given the imminent arrival of snowpocalypse 2.0. I'm confident our resident octogenarians will show up in force to root for the home team. Luckily this game was scheduled for tonight rather than last night. I don't think the golden ager donor contigent would've had the DVR space for missing a Tuesday night CBS lineup that includes FBI, FBI: International and FBI: Most wanted. Talk about a conflict of interests!
 
MOUNTAINH33L said:
I understand your concern given the imminent arrival of snowpocalypse 2.0. I'm confident our resident octogenarians will show up in force to root for the home team. Luckily this game was scheduled for tonight rather than last night. I don't think the golden ager donor contigent would've had the DVR space for missing a Tuesday night CBS lineup that includes FBI, FBI: International and FBI: Most wanted. Talk about a conflict of interests!
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My mom was pissed about Blue Bloods ending.
 
SnoopRob said:
Are the blue hairs going to be able to make it with all this snow?
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if the conditions are bad enough they'll probably postpone it, unfortunately.

if the rat and dook couldn't make it 7 miles in no snow a few years back, state probably isn't gonna come 25 miles in actual snow.
 
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