UNC ONLY BASKETBALL 2024-25 SEASON

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We've got three more chances to notch a signature non-conference win in the next 3 weeks-Alabama, Florida, and UCLA. We desperately need to win at least one of those at a bare minimum, and it would really behoove us to win two of them. One of them is on our home floor and another is in what should be a home away from home for us in Charlotte. Going 0-3 is not an option if we plan on making the NCAA Tournament without needing to win the ACC.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
Ok i ll b the first to admit idk what kenpom is. Just looking at their schedule they havent beaten anyone and not ranked in poll im looing at but I ll take your word for it. Oh how we have fallen regardless
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Ahhh gotcha, gotcha, OK that is totally understandable and makes a ton of sense as to why you wouldn't consider UCLA a signature win (and honestly, you're right, I should call it a'quality' win not a signature win). Ken Pomeroy is the creator of the college basketball website and statistical archive KenPom. KenPom measures efficiency of all 363 Division I teams and helps predict how each team will fare game to game based on those advanced statistics when matched against their opponents.

KenPom has UCLA ranked 17th (UNC is currently 16th), so according to KenPom, UNC beating UCLA would be considered a high-quality win strictly as it pertains to which teams are the best in the country from an anayltical and statistical standpoint.
 
CFordUNC said:
Ahhh gotcha, gotcha, OK that is totally understandable and makes a ton of sense as to why you wouldn't consider UCLA a signature win (and honestly, you're right, I should call it a'quality' win not a signature win). Ken Pomeroy is the creator of the college basketball website and statistical archive KenPom. KenPom measures efficiency of all 363 Division I teams and helps predict how each team will fare game to game based on those advanced statistics when matched against their opponents.

KenPom has UCLA ranked 17th (UNC is currently 16th), so according to KenPom, UNC beating UCLA would be considered a high-quality win strictly as it pertains to which teams are the best in the country from an anayltical and statistical standpoint.
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You were very patient and kind. A college basketball fan not knowing what kenpom is in 2024 is...interesting.
 
UNC really needs a win tonight and against Florida later this month. The optimists keep saying that it is early and the team is still figuring every thing out. But losing all your decent OOC games and then relying on stacking wins against terrible ACC teams is not ideal. Any conference loss is going to be magnified and the wins won't move the needle unless it is against dook.
 
BillOfRights said:
You were very patient and kind. A college basketball fan not knowing what kenpom is in 2024 is...interesting.
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Well there are different levels of fandom. I watch sports because i enjoy the competition. I dont care about stats or polls.....i have my own eye test dont need a computer program or a nerd in someones basement to tell me what team is better than the next. Old school i reckon. I do glace at somethings periodically, but couldnt care less about Kenpons or all these ridiculous matrix based numbers.
 
circlesky88 said:
UNC really needs a win tonight and against Florida later this month. The optimists keep saying that it is early and the team is still figuring every thing out. But losing all your decent OOC games and then relying on stacking wins against terrible ACC teams is not ideal. Any conference loss is going to be magnified and the wins won't move the needle unless it is against dook.
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Totally agree. We desperately need at least one of those two or it’s going to be a stressful Selection Sunday unless we win 15, 16+ ACC games.
 
CFordUNC said:
Totally agree. We desperately need at least one of those two or it’s going to be a stressful Selection Sunday unless we win 15, 16+ ACC games.
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As bad as the rest of the ACC looks (though Miami looked like a dangerous matchup for us despite their ineptitude so far this season), finishing second with losses against anyone other than dook and Clemson may not be enough.
 
If we lose to Alabama, Florida, and UCLA I don't see any way that UNC makes the NCAA unless we win the ACC Tournament. It would take an 17-3 or better record in conference and I don't think we do that considering the limitations of this team.
 
circlesky88 said:
If we lose to Alabama, Florida, and UCLA I don't see any way that UNC makes the NCAA unless we win the ACC Tournament. It would take an 17-3 or better record in conference and I don't think we do that considering the limitations of this team.
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Worst case scenarios are bad for every team.

I don’t see 0-3 there at all. 3-0 is more likely, imo.

2-1 probably the most likely.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
Well there are different levels of fandom. I watch sports because i enjoy the competition. I dont care about stats or polls.....i have my own eye test dont need a computer program or a nerd in someones basement to tell me what team is better than the next. Old school i reckon. I do glace at somethings periodically, but couldnt care less about Kenpons or all these ridiculous matrix based numbers.
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I'm not at all surprised by this comment, based on previous posts.
 
1-17 against SEC this season. This only magnifies the importance of tonight’s game.
 
nycfan said:
As bad as the rest of the ACC looks (though Miami looked like a dangerous matchup for us despite their ineptitude so far this season), finishing second with losses against anyone other than dook and Clemson may not be enough.
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Pitt is very good this season. Carolina has a killer stretch at the end of January with At Pitt, at dook, Pitt at home, and at Clemson.
 
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