United Healthcare CEO shot and killed | 1st Degree murder charges ordered dropped

ZZLPHeels said:
I’m not talking simply about celebrating. Making excuses for this murder or simply brushing it off as “oh well, he must have been a bad dude because he worked for an insurance company” is just as bad IMO.
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Oh come on. Surely you're aware of the concept of karma, as it has been bastardized in our popular culture? The following statements can all be true, you know:

1. It would be inadvisable for Biden to order a Zero Dark Thirty operation to assassinate Putin;
2. It would be wrong to do so, because it would almost certainly result in the deaths of lots and lots of innocent people.
3. If, after a storm, there's a rogue lightning bolt flittering through the sky looking for a target, I'd rather it hit Putin than anyone else.

The CEO is not Putin by any stretch of the imagination, to be clear. But do you understand the logic here? Do you understand how it's possible to recognize that there can be multiple valid ways of looking at a situation, and even sometimes those different approaches are contradictory.
 
BubbaOtis said:
Insider trading angle? Shut up the Rat?
nypost.com

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was facing DOJ probe for insider trading when he was killed in targeted NYC shooting

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was one of several senior executives at the company under investigation earlier this year for allegedly dumping over $100 million in company stock months before …
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Hmm, maybe this guy was more of a pro than I thought (as if what I thought had any basis).

If he was staying at that hostel -- which I stayed at years and years ago -- then he probably came from out of town. And why would someone come from out of town to shoot a guy?

On the other hand, if he was a pro, one would think he would know where there were cameras that might identify him. You know, like in a Starbucks.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
People choose to drink beer. People don't choose to get cancer or some other illness that isn't their fault.
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People choose to get run into by drunk drivers? People get addicted to alcohol. People make bad decisions when they are intoxicated. Kids grow up in abusive, non-functional homes due to alcohol.
 
NYC has to be one of the hardest places to pull off a crime like this. There are cameras on every street corner, every shop...
 
superrific said:
Hmm, maybe this guy was more of a pro than I thought (as if what I thought had any basis).

If he was staying at that hostel -- which I stayed at years and years ago -- then he probably came from out of town. And why would someone come from out of town to shoot a guy?

On the other hand, if he was a pro, one would think he would know where there were cameras that might identify him. You know, like in a Starbucks.
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I doubt this killer was a pro, but I imagine that a good number of the people who decide to become professional hitmen aren’t the brightest folks. (And for the record, I have represented at least one professional hitman.)
 
Icky Mettle said:
I doubt this killer was a pro, but I imagine that a good number of the people who decide to become professional hitmen aren’t the brightest folks. (And for the record, I have represented at least one professional hitman.)
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1. I didn't know you were an attorney
2. I guess it in part depends on what we mean by "pro." Technically, anyone who takes money to do a hit is a pro, but that's also true of people who take money to play basketball and yet few people would, in 2024, call Bronny James a "pro."
3. I will again reiterate that I am talking out of my ass because I don't really know anything about the high-risk, high-reward field of assassinations and other targeted violence. You might have the most experience of anyone on the board. I thought random speculation was what we were supposed to do when following a manhunt like this.
 
Focker said:
NYC has to be one of the hardest places to pull off a crime like this. There are cameras on every street corner, every shop...
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That's why I'm impressed that he's managed to go this long without being nabbed. Is he Neal from Heat? "Poof, he's gone!"? I doubt it. He's probably still on the island, but who knows.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
I’m not talking simply about celebrating. Making excuses for this murder or simply brushing it off as “oh well, he must have been a bad dude because he worked for an insurance company” is just as bad IMO.
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Mild indifference is just as bad as celebrating?
 
Eric Adams:

"“In all of my years of law enforcement, I have never seen a silencer before,” the mayor said. “And so that was really something that was shocking to us all.”

???
 
gtyellowjacket said:
The jacket is the same but the backpack is different. Is the picture with the black backpack where he checks into the hostel?

I believe the pictures with the light colored backpack is at Starbucks and him assassinating the guy.
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The photos where he’s smiling unmasked are apparently from the hostel on the west side around 103rd. I think from the previous day, but possibly from Wed. The timing is unclear in the reporting.
 
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