United Healthcare CEO shot and killed

I agree with all the comments that shooting the CEO of a company that you think did you wrong is a very bad/awful idea. That said, during my working career I spent one year with United HealthCare as my medical "insurance" provider. It was an absolute, unmitigated disaster. I let HR at work know in no uncertain terms if the next year didn't offer different or more options on healthcare insurance, I would be looking for a new job. And I wasn't the only one where I worked to voice displeasure at United Healthcare's business model. It was a hot topic. Maybe I didn't understand what United Healthcare was offering. Maybe my employer didn't understand what United Healthcare was offering. But my impression from my one year with United Healthcare was that it was NOT an "insurance company," it was a "price club." As in, United Healthcare negotiated favorable prices with selected healthcare providers that were available to its subscribers, but it was not providing insurance as I had come to know it in my then nearly 45 years of post-Army employment. I am not averse to my medical insurance company negotiating favorable rates with specific providers. But I want more than that from a medical insurance company. As in, actual coverage for health/medical issues.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
Health insurance is a necessity in this country. Companies need CEOs. Someone has to be CEO. Murdering people because we don't like their company policies will never be justifiable.
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Health care is a necessity. Private health insurance is not the only way - and definitely not the best way - to ensure that people have health care when they need it.
 
Video is pretty crazy - definitely looked like a professional or someone who knew what they were doing. That said, the real story is in the comments - no he didn't deserve this, but not getting much sympathy from the masses.
 
farce© said:
That is the issue we should be discussing.
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Sure, but that should also be irrelevant to this particular discussion. There are a lot of legitimate grievances people have that shouldn't result in violence. The healthcare system is broken and needs to be reformed. That doesn't mean that acts of violence against people who work in this system should be tolerated, excused, or brushed off.
 
CallMeTyler said:
Health insurance is a necessity?

Walk me through the need for a middle-man to manage care between a patient and their physician.
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I'm not talking about a pie-in-the-sky utopia. I'm talking about the way things are, right now, today. Health insurance is a necessity in today's society unless you are very wealthy or are poor enough to qualify for Medicaid. We don't have universal healthcare. We have multiple companies that provide private health insurance for people, coverage that is often provided at subsidized rates through their employers. That's the way the system works. In order for this coverage to be provided, companies have to exist to insure people. This person was just a man filling a job. He'll be replaced by another man filling that exact same seat. Murdering him does nothing to reform healthcare or make life better for anybody else.
 
rodoheel said:
Health care is a necessity. Private health insurance is not the only way - and definitely not the best way - to ensure that people have health care when they need it.
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Right now it is the only way for the overwhelming majority of Americans. And murders like the one today won't move the needle on this at all.
 
1moretimeagain said:
Long day ahead for the detective charged with making a list of people who might have a motive.
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The organization is universally despised by the many dozens of clinicians I work with. When we learn someone has United there’s often an exasperated collective sigh. Their customers are significantly less likely to get post acute care due to denials, and subsequently will take up a hospital bed much longer than necessary. United consumes more resources at the hospital level than any insurer I’ve encountered, and it’s a seemingly deliberate strategy to defer rehabilitation costs to the hospitals.
 
NCK9 said:
Video is pretty crazy - definitely looked like a professional or someone who knew what they were doing. That said, the real story is in the comments - no he didn't deserve this, but not getting much sympathy from the masses.
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There is video of it?
 
Put another way, would the people brushing off this murder be doing the same if the CEO of a beer company was shot and killed in the same fashion? Why not move on down the line? How about distributors? What about people who own bars and restaurants that serve alcohol? How about the guy that drives the beer truck that delivers the beer to the vendors? Alcohol is bad and kills people, right?
 
Did the murdered guy have a wife? A girlfriend? A husband? A boyfriend? Those would be the usual suspects.

Also, what about someone within the company?

Lethal shots from 20 feet*** with a handgun is pretty good. I realize this board evolved out of IC’s ZZL; so, we all could have killed the guy with one shot to the head while holding the gun sideways gangsta style……then, we’d have disappeared Jason Bourne-style…no need for a bike.

***Looking at the video, the first shot was 8-12 feet.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
Put another way, would the people brushing off this murder be doing the same if the CEO of a beer company was shot and killed in the same fashion? Why not move on down the line? How about distributors? What about people who own bars and restaurants that serve alcohol? How about the guy that drives the beer truck that delivers the beer to the vendors? Alcohol is bad and kills people, right?
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ZZLP, I think you might be looking for an argument here... but I don't think anyone really thinks this murder is justified or ok?
 
tallheel95 said:
ZZLP, I think you might be looking for an argument here... but I don't think anyone really thinks this murder is justified or ok?
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Not explicitly on here, but you don't have to look very far to see people celebrating this hit.
 
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