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CFordUNC said:
This is a bit off topic temporarily, but this is a great case-in-point example of what I’ve been saying. It is completely short-circuiting right wingers that the majority of us aren’t melting down or losing our shit or protesting or really doing anything other than, *shrug* “congrats on the win, hope you guys get what it was you voted for!” It is driving them crazy. So weird.

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That’s all a lot of them want out of election season, it’s like team sports to them.

Democrats are much too focused on where we went wrong and how to fix it to worry about what random right-wingers have to say.

2016 was a shock. 2024 is a call to action.
 
Callatoroy said:
Damn Ford, I give you more credit than wayne, but I’m thinking this election has you more rattled than you admit. That info was very positive for trump and the country. Careful not to let your desire to be right out weigh your desire for the country to prosper
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Are you truly as naive as you sound? Or just stupid? Russia owns Trump, and MAGA wet dreams about Putin.
 
Lolol on Trump’s phone call with Putin, he asked him not to escalate in Ukraine. Putin responded by having his state media show naked photos of Trump’s wife, and the next day launches a massive attack on Ukraine.

Seriously, Republicans, do you actually not get tired of carrying this dude’s water and then having him shit on your face?

This is one of the biggest reasons why I can’t bring myself to be upset about the election. As annoying as Trump is, at least an entertaining side effect is to get to watch Republicans like calla be forced to further and further and further debase themselves to defend the dumber and dumber.
 
TBH, I'm not laughing because we may be on the verge of unraveling the rules-based order that has served the United States pretty well since the end of WWII.

It does seem that Putin is making sort of a public spectacle about who may or may not hold the cards in future negotiations with the Trump Administration, but let's face it, Putin is a dick who is feeling empowered to do whatever he wants, but at some point he needs the Ukraine conflict to at least pause for a while. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn around and embrace some peace plan and give lavish credit to Trump for whatever that is, both to curry favor with Trump and to set him up for blame for whatever happens down the road. Putin has his own agenda and I think Americans would be best served to assume it is always intended to be negative for us, not cheer him on if he scores a few points here or there versus our political opponents.
 
nycfan said:
TBH, I'm not laughing because we may be on the verge of unraveling the rules-based order that has served the United States pretty well since the end of WWII.

It does seem that Putin is making sort of a public spectacle about who may or may not hold the cards in future negotiations with the Trump Administration, but let's face it, Putin is a dick who is feeling empowered to do whatever he wants, but at some point he needs the Ukraine conflict to at least pause for a while. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn around and embrace some peace plan and give lavish credit to Trump for whatever that is, both to curry favor with Trump and to set him up for blame for whatever happens down the road. Putin has his own agenda and I think Americans would be best served to assume it is always intended to be negative for us, not cheer him on if he scores a few points here or there versus our political opponents.
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Russia is going to roll over Ukraine now. He doesn't need a peace plan. He will be able to take basically what he wants.

The Ukrainians' morale is exceedingly low. They are having manpower shortages. Now that US assistance is gone, will NATO actually take up the slack? I doubt it. NATO does not want to give Trump any excuse at all for pulling out. The Europeans want to keep NATO hobbling along until Trump is gone.

It would not surprise me if Putin attacks Poland or maybe a Baltic state just to give Trump the opportunity to pull out of NATO. And the West knows that, which is why I expect them not to force a confrontation in Ukraine. Appeasement is a shitty plan in the long-term but it might be the best plan to tide them over until 2028.
 
Well, that’s good news. Trump has been accused of many things, but being a responsible person isn’t one of them.
 
David Ignatus on morning joe
Rubio is realtively "normal mainstream" on Sec of State issues...Now re Ukraine-yea Russia wins 20% of Ukraine quickly
 
No big deal, just the guy who’s been on Trump’s calls with Zelenskyy and Putin spreading pro-Russia propaganda.

 
lawtig02 said:
Can you elaborate just a little? I’m not sure what you mean by that.
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Rubio has historically taken a hard line against Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua; he's usually been leading the vanguard on sanctions with those three countries in particular (has a lot of Latinos fro these countries in Florida). He's well versed in topics pertaining to Latin America (not sure about other areas of the world...doubtful). He may take a much harder line than what the previous Trump admin did with those three countries in particular.

When you look at Latin America there are several clusters of partnerships, mostly along the lines of ideology. Roughly looks like this (and yes there is a lot more nuance):

"Leftist" Populist authoritarians: Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua (Bolivia has been a part of that group in the past
Left leaning regimes: Mexico, Colombia, Chile, Honduras, Brasil
"Right" Populists: Argentina, El Salvador
Middle of the Road: Costa Rica, Panama, Uruguay, DR?, Ecuador?, Peru?
 
CRHeel94 said:
Rubio has historically taken a hard line against Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua; he's usually been leading the vanguard on sanctions with those three countries in particular (has a lot of Latinos fro these countries in Florida). He's well versed in topics pertaining to Latin America (not sure about other areas of the world...doubtful). He may take a much harder line than what the previous Trump admin did with those three countries in particular.

When you look at Latin America there are several clusters of partnerships, mostly along the lines of ideology. Roughly looks like this (and yes there is a lot more nuance):

"Leftist" Populist authoritarians: Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua (Bolivia has been a part of that group in the past
Left leaning regimes: Mexico, Colombia, Chile, Honduras, Brasil
"Right" Populists: Argentina, El Salvador
Middle of the Road: Costa Rica, Panama, Uruguay, DR?, Ecuador?, Peru?
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Thanks. That's very interesting.
 
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