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I don't want to be a Pollyanna about this, but is the legitimate media beginning to wake up and smell the coffee ?

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'Not going to comment': Tom Homan gets agitated with ABC host over Abrego Garcia

Border czar Tom Homan refused to answer after ABC News host Jonathan Karl asked him if President Donald Trump had the power to have Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a wrongly deported man, returned to the U.S. from El Salvador. During a Sunday interview on This Week, Karl noted that the U.S. Supreme...
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If Trump does things according the left, will the left then favor deportations for those that came illegally and with the help of the last administration? Very important to know now. Otherwise the left is grandstanding like usual.
 
heelinhell said:
Silence ? seriously ?

Trump won the popular vote by 1.5% with a margin of votes less than Hillary and Biden

and Trump won, not because of concern about brown hordes invading our country, but because of the price of eggs which are now at an all time high at a bit over $6/dozen and 20 % higher than when Trump took office
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Immigration was a top issue of concern. And most polls showed Trump leading the issue. We shouldn't be back tracking with well known facts. Try and keep up!
 
Silence Dogood said:
If Trump does things according the left, will the left then favor deportations for those that came illegally and with the help of the last administration? Very important to know now. Otherwise the left is grandstanding like usual.
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Of course. If due process is provided as required by law. I haven’t seen ANYONE suggest that immigration judges should not be permitted to order the deportation of certain immigrants, as has happened for decades now under every president, including both Trump and Biden, or that immigrants who courts order to be deported should not, in fact, be deported.

I’m telling you, you’re SUPER close to getting this. Just a couple more neurons connecting and you’ll realize why you’ve been so incredibly wrong about this for so long.
 
Silence Dogood said:
If Trump does things according the left, will the left then favor deportations for those that came illegally and with the help of the last administration? Very important to know now. Otherwise the left is grandstanding like usual.
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I think if Trump and his minions were to back down, abide by the law, and grant due process which determines those people who have been committing actual crimes are here illegally, then I think most on the left would be ok with that.
 
Silence Dogood said:
Immigration was a top issue of concern. And most polls showed Trump leading the issue. We shouldn't be back tracking with well known facts. Try and keep up!
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I'm not arguing that the Trump MAGA base was not afraid that brown hordes were invading our country to rape our women and children. But that cohort did not determine the outcome of the election. After all, they voted for Trump in 2020.

The voters who were worried about the price of eggs determined the outcome of the 2024 election.
 
milom98 said:
Wow, I thought the Biden admin had open border policies and didn't care who entered the country and now I'm learning that he deported 15 million illegal aliens.

Guess the right can actually get around to telling the truth when trying to frame some stupid ass point as a "why is Trump being treated differently" grievance.
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I'm not sure what the right believes but everybody deports. Obama did, Trump O did, Biden did, Trump II is going to.

The question is what happens to those folks between when they're picked up and when they're deported. Obama and Biden let a lot of them go. That might be the humane thing to do but it tends to encourage more migrants to try their luck, especially for Biden. And that really was an issue for Biden and Harris as his appointed deputy.

Trump I put people in cages and separated kids from their parents to make it miserable for folks that want to migrate. It hurt him politically but less people were trying to come.

Trump Ii is now deporting people to put them in even worse prisons again to make it pretty miserable for people to come here. He's likely going to lose in court and I think it will hurt him politically, but I suspect migration will drop sharply from Biden's term.
 
Silence Dogood said:
If Trump does things according the left, will the left then favor deportations for those that came illegally and with the help of the last administration? Very important to know now. Otherwise the left is grandstanding like usual.
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And what about ICE agents detaining actual American citizens for ten days - ten days! - simply because they didn't have an ID? And his family had to frantically search to find him, otherwise he might still be detained or could have even been deported, even though he is a U.S. citizen but was arrested and detained anyway? Can you not see the problems with what's happening here with ICE just arresting anyone who looks suspicious (They look Hispanic! They have a Spanish/Latino last name - they gotta be an illegal immigrant!) or deporting people without due process?

 
gtyellowjacket said:
I'm not sure what the right believes but everybody deports. Obama did, Trump O did, Biden did, Trump II is going to.

The question is what happens to those folks between when they're picked up and when they're deported. Obama and Biden let a lot of them go. That might be the humane thing to do but it tends to encourage more migrants to try their luck, especially for Biden. And that really was an issue for Biden and Harris as his appointed deputy.

Trump I put people in cages and separated kids from their parents to make it miserable for folks that want to migrate. It hurt him politically but less people were trying to come.

Trump Ii is now deporting people to put them in even worse prisons again to make it pretty miserable for people to come here. He's likely going to lose in court and I think it will hurt him politically, but I suspect migration will drop sharply from Biden's term.
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Is there some reason that you left out that the Trump administration's policy of state sponsored kidnapping was illegal and grossly immoral?

Political consequences be damned, it was deeply wrong by virtually any metric.
 
StrangePackage said:
Is there some reason that you left out that the Trump administration's policy of state sponsored kidnapping was illegal and grossly immoral?

Political consequences be damned, it was deeply wrong by virtually any metric.
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Did i? I mentioned that he would likely lose in court. Is there a reason you ignored that?
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Did i? I mentioned that he would likely lose in court. Is there a reason you ignored that?
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You did.

I left it out because you addressed said it and I agree that it will not stand in court. But Trump's state sponsored kidnapping (like his policy of stealing children) is not merely illegal or politically damaging - they're fundamentally wrong and morally indefensible.

I'm just asking why you left those out of your critique?
 
StrangePackage said:
You did.

I left it out because you addressed said it and I agree that it will not stand in court. But Trump's state sponsored kidnapping (like his policy of stealing children) is not merely illegal or politically damaging - they're fundamentally wrong and morally indefensible.

I'm just asking why you left those out of your critique?
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I thought it was implied. As is putting people in cages or separating kids from their parents. I didn't realize I needed to spell that out for anyone specifically. Is there a reason you don't automatically associate those things with being fundamentally wrong or morally indefensible? I'm just asking why you wouldn't already know that.
 
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