US strikes Venezuela / Captures Maduro

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heelinhell said:
Very good question

In a rational world this would be the economic/stock market story...

(Bloomberg) -- US manufacturing activity shrank in December by the most since 2024, capping a rough year for American factories.

The Institute for Supply Management’s manufacturing index edged down to 47.9 from 48.2, according to data released Monday. The measure has been below 50, which indicates contraction, for 10 straight months.
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Oil futures are up a bit because the market believes that Trump is out over his skiis. He'll Eff it up like most of his businesses and Trump 1.0. Trump ran USA Inc. into the ground in 2020 and set the stage for major inflation with
1. Massive QE in 2019
2. The massive DEFICIT SPENDING and BIGGEST INCREASE in the NATIONAL DEBT ever due to the 2017 taxfraud bill where my middle class taxes increased 30% and billionaires didn't pay jack. Trucvkers got screwed - Many quit limiting the supply chain by the end of COVID.
3. Reneging on a deal with OPEC in 2020, causing OPEC to respond by greatly decreasing production.
4. Boatloads of $$ paid off the banks in 2020 during COVID, orders of magnitude.
5. Horrendous mismanagement of COVID, leading to a worsened supply chain and inflation.

Trump sucks at business fundamentals. That's why so many of Trump brands went under: Trump Vodka, Mortgage, Steaks, Casinos, University, Airlines, Modeling Agency, Magazine, The Game, Ice, GoTrump.com/browser, New Jersey Generals, etc.
 
lawtig02 said:
More of a friendly rival, I think, from Trump's perspective. Kind of like the SEC and the Big 10. They consider each other rivals, but their main goal is to consolidate power at the expense of everyone else. Takes a lot of coordination and dealmaking for that to happen. The analogy is not perfect because China would be a third superconference, but it seems pretty clear to me that's what the Trump administration has in mind.

Europe, sadly, is the ACC.
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I would say Europe is the Big 12. Competitive and trying something but not really an equal player

South America and the rest of North America is the ACC. And throw in 2 random countries to simulate Stanford and Cal
 
rodoheel said:
Grassley and his compatriots let Trump emasculate and embarrass them daily and refuse to use their constitutional authority to limit the power of the President, then wonder why it is that Trump treats them like irrelevant doofuses.
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Even 41 gave the Gang of 8 the heads-up on Noriega and Panama.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I jist would like to point out that @ZenMode acted like people were outright idiots for even suggesting that Trump would attack or go after Venezuela directly.

Is he going to own being the fool because he damned sure was made into one by Trump...yet again.
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I believe I said there wasn't going to be a war between the US and Venezuela.

I don't consider the uneventful, largely resistence-free capturing of Maduro, in an operation that took 2 hours, to be war.
 
lawtig02 said:
Miller considers all Venezuelans — and for that matter, all Central and South Americans — enemy combatants.
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Where or where will Miller deport all the brown people in Venezuela?
ZenMode said:
I believe I said there wasn't going to be a war between the US and Venezuela.

I don't consider the uneventful, largely resistence-free capturing of Maduro, in an operation that took 2 hours, to be war.
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No. it's a good old fashioned BANK ROBBERY of oil and minerals.

 
Callatoroy said:
Adversaries = china, Russia, and their proxies. Trump isnt / wasn’t alone in wanting Madura gone. Biden did too but took no action. Like it or not but allowing china and Russian to gain influence/ control over Venezuela is a threat to national security, and their presence / influence was growing. My concern isnt the action taken, it’s the actions that are to come. IMO, the natural resources belong to the people of Venezuela. It is possible for this to be a win / win for Venezuela and the US. Forcing the sale of resources to countries that don’t benefit Russia and china doesn’t harm Venezuela.
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LMAOOOOOO.

this administration CERTAINLY isn't behaving as if russia is an adversary in literally almost all other matters. we're letting them run riot in europe.
 
ZenMode said:
The point that Maduro isn't the leader of Venezuela is a good one. He's basically just a drug kingpin.
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He's a Communist. He nationalized industries...something Trump has attempted on corporations and universities.
As is Delcy Rodriguez the new President. She wants a piece of the action.
 
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