US strikes Venezuela / Captures Maduro

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What I don’t have a feel for is are the disenfranchised youth of Venezuela willing to become a different type of rebel. Are they jihadist like. If our boys occupy the country will they come home in body bags as a result of desperate Venezuelans. Will we end up killing thousands of them for killing tens of us?
 
heelinhell said:
I've been day drinking since 7am and know next to nothing about oil markets so this may be a dumb question.

Heretofore , for years the Saudis have manipulated the price of oil. Could we not do the same down the road ?
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It costs the Saudis peanuts (less than $10/ barrel and maybe $2/barrel) to extract a barrel of oil. Yes, much of their oil is “sour” (higher sulfur count); but, most Saudi oil is (1) dirt cheap to access and (2) not as “sour” A’s Venezuelan oil or Canadian shale oil.

Also, as recently as 20 years ago (I quit paying attention), the Saudis didn't count ANYTHING that cost more than $1/barrel to extract as a “proven” reserve.
 
Zoo_View said:
Isn’t a Chinese Fire Drill just everyone in a car leaps out at a red light and races around in the same direction to the next open door and jumps in. Then, the new driver, drives off.

Or, everyone jumps out at the red light and races around the car and returns to his/her original seat and the driver drives off.

Regardless, a Chinese Fire Drill is much better organized than the conquest of Venezuela.
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The term has been around forever to mean a state of chaotic confusion. It was adopted to describe the prank you mentioned. Probably because said prank mimics chaotic confusion.
 
RockyMtnHoo said:
I’m honestly a little surprised it’s only 65%.
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Yeah, it may be a reasonably good indication of the size of the isolationist component of the MAGA base.

Based on the large portion of uncertainty in every group, People seem willing to give the Maduro extraction a pass (if not cheerlead it) but not willing to commit to nation-building.
 
nycfan said:
Yeah, it may be a reasonably good indication of the size of the isolationist component of the MAGA base.

Based on the large portion of uncertainty in every group, People seem willing to give the Maduro extraction a pass (if not cheerlead it) but not willing to commit to nation-building.
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Which makes sense

Bad guy. Needed to go. Not the way we did it. But now let them figure it out

And then Trump can rot
 
LeoBloom said:
Wait, Russia is now an adversary?
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More of a friendly rival, I think, from Trump's perspective. Kind of like the SEC and the Big 10. They consider each other rivals, but their main goal is to consolidate power at the expense of everyone else. Takes a lot of coordination and dealmaking for that to happen. The analogy is not perfect because China would be a third superconference, but it seems pretty clear to me that's what the Trump administration has in mind.

Europe, sadly, is the ACC.
 
rodoheel said:
"We" (the United States) didn't have any contract with Venezuela; if anyone did, the oil companies themselves did. Some of those companies probably don't even exist anymore. It's entirely appropriate for the US government to protect the interests of US companies to some extent, but that's pretty obviously not what Trump is doing here (since anyone would obviously be hard-pressed to connect the dots between using Delta Force to kidnap the head of a foreign country to bring him here to stand trial on drug charges with trying to facilitate resolution of some contract dispute over oil infrastructure).
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Trump to NBC News yesterday:

When comparing Venezuela to Iraq 23 years ago: "This time we're keeping the oil."

"A tremendous amount of money will be spent." "We're going to reimburse the oil companies."
 
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