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USA Impacts of bombing Iran

Duke Mu said:
So, escalation and a wrecked economy. Thanks for being honest.
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If Iran truly does close the strait, then, yes. That's how we will respond. How else could we? It's just matter-of-fact.

This never should have happened. It's all Trump's folly, from his first administration.

I will say, however, I blame Biden partially. He had a chance to end Bibi's game. And he didn't.

The US has basically become an Israeli proxy. That should never be the case.

Assuming this ends well, or even if it doesn't, we need to seriously reevaluate the influence of the Israel lobby in our nation. It has far too much power.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
I'm not worried about a liberal/conservative balance. I'm simply annoyed at being personally attacked for expressing a viewpoint that is barely even controversial. It is tiring.
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I get it, but if being here isn't an enjoyable experience for you, then find a place that is. And I'm not being a dick here.

There have been a number of fangroups that I have been a part of that stopped being enjoyable to me because voices that had similar viewpoints to mine were constantly silenced. But complaining about it wouldn't have done me any good. When it got to the point that that bothered me enough that it wasn't fun being there anymore, I left and found groups that naturally respected all opinions more, were differently moderated, or, worse case scenario, were made up of people whose viewpoints are more similar to my own.

The last solution isn't ideal, but I find myself being a better person in those groups than I was when I countered the toxicity of others with my own because I'm not fighting everyone to get my voice heard.

Again, do what you feel is best, and I do appreciate the different viewpoints conservative posters bring, but do what makes you happiest. And if being here doesn't bring you peace, there are other places that will.
 
05C40 said:
Start getting all your banking and credit card statements printed on paper and mailed to you. Stop buying anything on-line that you don't absolutely need and if you have to, buy from some place in America big enough to be able to afford a vigorous and effective defense against cyber-attacks. When you use your credit/debit card to make a purchase, tap the card and try whenever possible to avoid inserting the card anywhere. When travelling and you stop at some little, run-down looking store/gas station, try to pay with cash if you can. If you have to insert a credit/debit card anywhere, examine it closely to try and discern if it is a fake overlay.
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Asustad Omg GIF by DeRay Davis

are iranian hackers THAT good? jfc.
 
sringwal said:
I get it, but if being here isn't an enjoyable experience for you, then find a place that is. And I'm not being a dick here.

There have been a number of fangroups that I have been a part of that stopped being enjoyable to me because voices that had similar viewpoints to mine were constantly silenced. But complaining about it wouldn't have done me any good. When it got to the point that that bothered me enough that it wasn't fun being there anymore, I left and found groups that naturally respected all opinions more, were differently moderated, or, worse case scenario, were made up of people whose viewpoints are more similar to my own.

The last solution isn't ideal, but I find myself being a better person in those groups than I was when I countered the toxicity of others with my own because I'm not fighting everyone to get my voice heard.

Again, do what you feel is best, and I do appreciate the different viewpoints conservative posters bring, but do what makes you happiest. And if being here doesn't bring you peace, there are other places that will.
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I’m not going anywhere. Not going to reward the negativity.
 
Zoo_View said:
They don’t view him as a “good businessman” or a “good leader;” they view him as GREAT!
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While I agree, GT and Callatoroy have often argued that he is a good leader.

And I hear magas everyday saying that he's the businessman they always wanted and the government needs.

They view him as great because they haven't broken free of the cult mind trap yet.

But it might be coming. I've noticed several stores and homes that were once loaded with trump flags and other paraphernalia have removed all the crap. But the biggest one still has rebel flags.
 
p5mmr9 said:
Not really.

The Fifth Fleet is stationed in Bahrain. It is really unlikely the try to close the strait. Also it would be self defeating since their own oil industry uses the strait to export to China.
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Wow, I spent 20 years as an Officer in the Navy, and I never heard of this 5th Fleet thing.

As someone else pointed out, the Iranians have a lot of cards to play here, including mining. The real question becomes where are the mine warfare ships and helicopters. And what happens when they stop shooting those ballistic missiles at Israel but instead at Saudi Arabia.
 
05C40 said:
Start getting all your banking and credit card statements printed on paper and mailed to you. Stop buying anything on-line that you don't absolutely need and if you have to, buy from some place in America big enough to be able to afford a vigorous and effective defense against cyber-attacks. When you use your credit/debit card to make a purchase, tap the card and try whenever possible to avoid inserting the card anywhere. When travelling and you stop at some little, run-down looking store/gas station, try to pay with cash if you can. If you have to insert a credit/debit card anywhere, examine it closely to try and discern if it is a fake overlay.
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So Iran is going to start skimming debit and credit cards?
 
MendotoManteo said:
If Iran truly does close the strait, then, yes. That's how we will respond. How else could we? It's just matter-of-fact.

This never should have happened. It's all Trump's folly, from his first administration.

I will say, however, I blame Biden partially. He had a chance to end Bibi's game. And he didn't.

The US has basically become an Israeli proxy. That should never be the case.

Assuming this ends well, or even if it doesn't, we need to seriously reevaluate the influence of the Israel lobby in our nation. It has far too much power.
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We could have withdrawn aid to Israel. Biden was sort of attempting to protect the election. Bibi's gambit has been to stay in office. That means War.

I blame Biden more for not providing Ukraine sufficient air power to blast through the growing minefields behind the Russians lines during the 2023 counteroffensive.
 
UNCatTech said:
While I agree, GT and Callatoroy have often argued that he is a good leader.

And I hear magas everyday saying that he's the businessman they always wanted and the government needs.

They view him as great because they haven't broken free of the cult mind trap yet.

But it might be coming. I've noticed several stores and homes that were once loaded with trump flags and other paraphernalia have removed all the crap. But the biggest one still has rebel flags.
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Link? I'll save you some time. You won't find something I never said. Maybe you could try to discuss a topic without lying.

I like some of what Trump is doing but mostly not. And the things I liked such as cutting the bureaucratic waste and keeping us out of foreign wars are going the wrong way.
 
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