War on Universities, Lawyers & Expertise

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superrific said:
This is misleading. Universities who receive federal funding violate the CRA if they discriminate (using intentionally vague terminology), and the government can enforce that violation. There is a process that has to be followed. The Education Dept can't just say, "nope, no more money for you." That's not how the law works. In addition, I think that schools must be given an opportunity to cure and come into compliance. I'm not expert in this area and there might be posters who are, so I will defer in advance.

All the other shit that Trump was demanding -- it's patently unconstitutional, it has no relationship to the CRA violations alleged, and he lacks statutory authority to do anything of the sort. You can carry that message back to the right-wing boards. Process is important. Process is part of freedom. There can be neither law nor liberty if the government doesn't have to obey rules about how to conduct its affairs.
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More of just owning the Libs, and universities have lousy lobbyists. Some have money and muscle and aren't afraid to use it.
 
4thgenheel said:
its all based on the lie that any and all anti-israel sentiment is antisemitic.

"it doesn't seem unjustified" and "my opinion" makes it clear that you agree with this bullshit.

does it strike you as a bit odd that the university presidents at harvard, princeton, MIT and wesleyan amongst others are jewish and are all staunchly against this admin's supposed antisemitism task force?
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Some believe anything short of worship is antisemitic.

It is possible to disagree with the actions of the Isrealy government and not be antisemitic, but don't tell zen.
 
breepf said:
In the last 48 hours, you've argued that, past and present, black Americans have enjoyed unbelievable and unfair luck. Now some Jews are more Jewish than other Jews. You are an absolute fucking genius.
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There's nothing surprising about the claim that some Jews are more Jewish than others. That's literally true about any characteristic you can think of.
 
Zoo_View said:
I really like how MLB talked up the FACT that Jackie Robinson and the Brooklyn Dodgers broke the color barrier in Major League Baseball.
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Yep. You have to wonder how sports organizations have figured out how to hire the best, most qualified people, regardless of color, but apparently the rest of the country hasn't.
 
nycfan said:
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He is mad at Harvard for not kneeling before Zod.
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How Harvard Ended Up Leading the University Fight Against Trump​

Some in Washington say America’s wealthiest school is about to learn the price of crossing the president​


“… In Washington, Republicans say the nation’s wealthiest and oldest university has just made a serious error in judgment and is about to learn the cost of crossing Trump.

… Trump’s allies are also vowing to hold the line against the Ivy League university, which has an endowment of more than $50 billion.

“I think Harvard got bad advice to take a different approach,” said U.S. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R., N.Y.), herself a Harvard graduate, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. “But what they don’t realize is the level of seriousness—it is dead serious.”

Now that Harvard has stuck its neck out, it is waiting for support. The institution is working with Ballard Partners, a lobbying firm with close ties to Trump that the university hired earlier this year. It is also leaning on its own team in Washington to reach out to potentially sympathetic Republicans in the administration or in Congress who might be willing to help, according to people familiar with the matter. …”
 
breepf said:
Please elaborate. I'd like to read more of your well-informed musings on the history of Judaism and Jewishness, particularly as it relates to contemporary American politics.
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My best friend of 30 years is genetically Jewish. He's also atheist. I consider him to be less Jewish than someone like Ben Shapiro.

Ben is incredibly passionate about the war in Gaza and what happened on October 7th. My friend is not.
 
nycfan said:

How Harvard Ended Up Leading the University Fight Against Trump​

Some in Washington say America’s wealthiest school is about to learn the price of crossing the president​


“… In Washington, Republicans say the nation’s wealthiest and oldest university has just made a serious error in judgment and is about to learn the cost of crossing Trump.

… Trump’s allies are also vowing to hold the line against the Ivy League university, which has an endowment of more than $50 billion.

“I think Harvard got bad advice to take a different approach,” said U.S. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R., N.Y.), herself a Harvard graduate, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. “But what they don’t realize is the level of seriousness—it is dead serious.”

Now that Harvard has stuck its neck out, it is waiting for support. The institution is working with Ballard Partners, a lobbying firm with close ties to Trump that the university hired earlier this year. It is also leaning on its own team in Washington to reach out to potentially sympathetic Republicans in the administration or in Congress who might be willing to help, according to people familiar with the matter. …”
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“… The day the Harvard news broke, MIT, Princeton and other universities sued the Energy Department to block cuts to federal research grants the agency said would save $405 million annually. And on Tuesday, Stanford University President Jonathan Levin and Provost Jenny Martinez expressed support for Harvard and vowed to resist Trump.

… Harvard had already spent months making good-faith efforts to quell campus antisemitism and implement structural changes to stop it from rising again. The tactics broadly met the requests that arrived in a letter from a new Trump bureaucratic panel called the Task Force to Combat Anti-Semitism. Both sides wanted to see a mask ban and a winding down of diversity, equity and inclusion in admissions and faculty hiring.

The task force believed Harvard would concede, just as Columbia had, according to someone familiar with the negotiations. And indeed, Harvard’s initial complaints to the task force were that the demands were too vague. Could it have more details?

Late this past Friday, Harvard finally got the real ask—and was shocked by the demands detailed in a five-page letter, according to a person familiar with the negotiations. The list included requirements that Harvard allow federal-government oversight of admissions, hiring and the ideology of students and staff.
… Stefanik said the demands were reasonable for a university that she portrayed as doing too little to protect Jewish students. “They’re pretty common-sense terms,” she said. “It was very straightforward.”

… Within hours, the federal task force to combat antisemitism canceled more than $2 billion in research grants. On Tuesday, Trump made a social-media post threatening Harvard’s tax-exempt status. …”
 
nycfan said:
“… The day the Harvard news broke, MIT, Princeton and other universities sued the Energy Department to block cuts to federal research grants the agency said would save $405 million annually. And on Tuesday, Stanford University President Jonathan Levin and Provost Jenny Martinez expressed support for Harvard and vowed to resist Trump.

… Harvard had already spent months making good-faith efforts to quell campus antisemitism and implement structural changes to stop it from rising again. The tactics broadly met the requests that arrived in a letter from a new Trump bureaucratic panel called the Task Force to Combat Anti-Semitism. Both sides wanted to see a mask ban and a winding down of diversity, equity and inclusion in admissions and faculty hiring.

The task force believed Harvard would concede, just as Columbia had, according to someone familiar with the negotiations. And indeed, Harvard’s initial complaints to the task force were that the demands were too vague. Could it have more details?

Late this past Friday, Harvard finally got the real ask—and was shocked by the demands detailed in a five-page letter, according to a person familiar with the negotiations. The list included requirements that Harvard allow federal-government oversight of admissions, hiring and the ideology of students and staff.
… Stefanik said the demands were reasonable for a university that she portrayed as doing too little to protect Jewish students. “They’re pretty common-sense terms,” she said. “It was very straightforward.”

… Within hours, the federal task force to combat antisemitism canceled more than $2 billion in research grants. On Tuesday, Trump made a social-media post threatening Harvard’s tax-exempt status. …”
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ZenMode said:
Yep. You have to wonder how sports organizations have figured out how to hire the best, most qualified people, regardless of color, but apparently the rest of the country hasn't.
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And that happened on the field/court DECADES before it did in the coaching ranks...and it only happened in the coaching ranks once there were formal programs to promote hiring minorities. So, if you think the most qualified people are there currently, do you think they magically became such around the same time organizations made a point to include them or do you think they were overlooked prior to those efforts?
 
ZenMode said:
My best friend of 30 years is genetically Jewish. He's also atheist. I consider him to be less Jewish than someone like Ben Shapiro.

Ben is incredibly passionate about the war in Gaza and what happened on October 7th. My friend is not.
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Being passionate about the “war” in Gaza is a measure of Jewishness? Hmmm. Where would you rank Haredi Jews on the Jewishness scale?
 
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