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And that happened on the field/court DECADES before it did in the coaching ranks...and it only happened in the coaching ranks once there were formal programs to promote hiring minorities. So, if you think the most qualified people are there currently, do you think they magically became such around the same time organizations made a point to include them or do you think they were overlooked prior to those efforts?
I think the Rooney Rule probably had some impact on hiring, but may not have had the results that many hoped for.

NFL head coaching positions are mostly filled by former offensive coordinator. Right now, this year, there's not one black offensive coordinator. In order to have black head coaches, you have to have black assistant coaches. In order to have an increase in black assistant coaches, you have to have an overall increase in black people interested in coaching going back to middle school, high school and college.

The most successful black head coaches, by far, are Art Shell, Dennis Green, Marvin Lewis and Mike Tomlin. Only Mike Tomlin was hired after the Rooney Rule went into effect and his rise in the NFL coaching ranks was fast before Rooney, so I have zero doubt that he would have been hired and successful regardless of the Rooney Rule. Why are three of the 4 most successful black head coaches pre-Rooney? Because, like with players, the top coaching performers/prospects weren't being held back because of race, nationality, etc.
 
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The idea of being genetically Jewish is wild!

Am I genetically Methodist, genetically protestant, or genetically Anglican since both sides of my family are from England?
Even if that were not the case, on the basis of the definition above, Jews would not qualify as a race. Though many modern Jews may trace their genetics to a particular ancient Jewish community, and some common genetic features are still detectable among diverse Jewish populations, centuries of dispersion among other racial and ethic groups have broadened the Jewish gene pool to an extent that it’s impossible to identify a common set of genetic markers that biologically distinguish Jews from others. Even as far back as biblical times, Jews have possessed, and passed on, genetic markers that came from outside the community.

 


Law Firms Made Deals With Trump. Now He Wants More From Them.​

To avoid retribution, big firms agreed to provide free legal services for uncontroversial causes. To the White House, that could mean negotiating trade deals — or even defending the president and his allies.

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I believe I made this very point in this thread.
 
That is not an answer to the question put before you.
It is indirectly an answer. Just like there are people who are more "christian" that others or people who are more 'fans' of a given team than others, there are varying degrees of being Jewish, partially because, as I mentioned above, there is a genetic component to being Jewish that exists independently of any religious aspects. Someone can have the genetic/cultural component while having no connection to the religious aspect.
 
Even if that were not the case, on the basis of the definition above, Jews would not qualify as a race. Though many modern Jews may trace their genetics to a particular ancient Jewish community, and some common genetic features are still detectable among diverse Jewish populations, centuries of dispersion among other racial and ethic groups have broadened the Jewish gene pool to an extent that it’s impossible to identify a common set of genetic markers that biologically distinguish Jews from others. Even as far back as biblical times, Jews have possessed, and passed on, genetic markers that came from outside the community.

Just grabbed the first thing that sounded like you might not be talking entirely out of your ass, and didn't read it, did you?
 
Just grabbed the first thing that sounded like you might not be talking entirely out of your ass, and didn't read it, did you?
Are you under the impression that the part you colored blue somehow negates my claim about a genetic component of being Jewish? If that's your belief, you're wrong.
 


Law Firms Made Deals With Trump. Now He Wants More From Them.​

To avoid retribution, big firms agreed to provide free legal services for uncontroversial causes. To the White House, that could mean negotiating trade deals — or even defending the president and his allies.

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I believe I made this very point in this thread.

“… “Have you noticed that lots of law firms have been signing up with Trump: $100 million, another $100 million for damages that they’ve done,” Mr. Trump said at an event last week with coal miners, without specifying what he meant by damages.

None of the firms have acknowledged any wrongdoing. They were targeted with punitive executive orders or implicit threats for representing or aiding Mr. Trump’s political foes or employing people he sees as having used the legal system to come after him.

… now that nine firms have agreed to deals and committed to nearly $1 billion worth of pro bono legal work, some Trump advisers have started having discussions about a range of options for what the firms’ lawyers can be deployed to work on, according to two people briefed on the matter. That work could include sending the lawyers to help Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency or deploying them to aid the Justice Department, they said.

White House officials believe that some of the pro bono legal work could even be used toward representing Mr. Trump or his allies if they became ensnared in investigations, according to the two people.

… Leaders of some of the firms have seen Mr. Trump’s comments in recent days and are just hoping that Mr. Trump will not follow through and press them to take on work on behalf of the administration, according to three people with direct knowledge of the matter. …”

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“… “Have you noticed that lots of law firms have been signing up with Trump: $100 million, another $100 million for damages that they’ve done,” Mr. Trump said at an event last week with coal miners, without specifying what he meant by damages.

None of the firms have acknowledged any wrongdoing. They were targeted with punitive executive orders or implicit threats for representing or aiding Mr. Trump’s political foes or employing people he sees as having used the legal system to come after him.

… now that nine firms have agreed to deals and committed to nearly $1 billion worth of pro bono legal work, some Trump advisers have started having discussions about a range of options for what the firms’ lawyers can be deployed to work on, according to two people briefed on the matter. That work could include sending the lawyers to help Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency or deploying them to aid the Justice Department, they said.

White House officials believe that some of the pro bono legal work could even be used toward representing Mr. Trump or his allies if they became ensnared in investigations, according to the two people.

… Leaders of some of the firms have seen Mr. Trump’s comments in recent days and are just hoping that Mr. Trump will not follow through and press them to take on work on behalf of the administration, according to three people with direct knowledge of the matter. …”

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“… Any work for the administration that gets into policy positions could create conflicts with a firm’s big corporate clients — especially if those clients’ interests are at odds with those of the administration. A group of legal ethics experts made this very point in a so-called amicus brief filed on Friday in support of two law firms that opted to take the Trump administration to court after being hit with an executive order.

And if the administration seeks to require any of the firms to do work for the Justice Department, those that have cases before the department could lose clients that are under federal investigation.

“A firm that can survive only by staying in the president’s good graces,” the professors wrote in their amicus brief, “has incentives that conflict with its lawyers’ stringent fiduciary duties to remain loyal to the interests of their clients, exercise independent judgment, and be truthful and candid in all dealings with the courts.”“

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I spend a lot of time on conflict waivers — and there can be a lot of stress around whether to approve a small matter with a new client that creates a conflict with an existing large client and go through the conflict waiver process.

In a normal world, if a pro bono (or any other) case created a material conflict for a Firm or could cause the Firm to lose an existing client, the Firm would pass on that pro bono representation. But I doubt the Trump Team will accept “sorry, we are conflicted out” as a response.
 
Are you under the impression that the part you colored blue somehow negates my claim about a genetic component of being Jewish? If that's your belief, you're wrong.

p. 208: "any general biological definition of Jews is meaningless. Despite the persistence of intra-Jewish, socio-cultural relatedness, coupled with the exclusion of Jews by Gentile society, Jewish communities have never been reproductively isolated from their neighbors. Although there is widespread evidence of certain Middle Eastern genetic components in numerous Jewish communities, there is no proof of a typical Jewish prototype."

Do you have comparable experience in genetics and specifically in genetic testing in Jewish populations to Raphael Falk? Or can you provide me some other reason that I should take your perspective over his in this?
 

p. 208: "any general biological definition of Jews is meaningless. Despite the persistence of intra-Jewish, socio-cultural relatedness, coupled with the exclusion of Jews by Gentile society, Jewish communities have never been reproductively isolated from their neighbors. Although there is widespread evidence of certain Middle Eastern genetic components in numerous Jewish communities, there is no proof of a typical Jewish prototype."

Do you have comparable experience in genetics and specifically in genetic testing in Jewish populations to Raphael Falk? Or can you provide me some other reason that I should take your perspective over his in this?
I'm still laughing about "the part you colored blue."
 

p. 208: "any general biological definition of Jews is meaningless. Despite the persistence of intra-Jewish, socio-cultural relatedness, coupled with the exclusion of Jews by Gentile society, Jewish communities have never been reproductively isolated from their neighbors. Although there is widespread evidence of certain Middle Eastern genetic components in numerous Jewish communities, there is no proof of a typical Jewish prototype."

Do you have comparable experience in genetics and specifically in genetic testing in Jewish populations to Raphael Falk? Or can you provide me some other reason that I should take your perspective over his in this?
You are looking at one study. There are others


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Yep. You have to wonder how sports organizations have figured out how to hire the best, most qualified people, regardless of color, but apparently the rest of the country hasn't.
Yes, sports organizations that literally have opportunity interviewing rules. The kind that you would call woke DEI and want removed.
 


Law Firms Made Deals With Trump. Now He Wants More From Them.​

To avoid retribution, big firms agreed to provide free legal services for uncontroversial causes. To the White House, that could mean negotiating trade deals — or even defending the president and his allies.

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I believe I made this very point in this thread.

You did. And the point I made, which is related I think, is that any effort by Trump to conscript pro bono work to a cause he favors would be deemed unconstitutional.

And of course there are issues about timing -- i.e. when the commitment is supposed to take place.

There's also the point that Josh Marshall brought up: where are these agreements. Usually the government, when announcing a settlement, has to first file charges, propose the settlement to the judge, and gain judicial approval. That can be done in a day, as one big transaction (though the judge sometimes takes a few days to review). But it has to happen, or else the deal can't be enforced. Right now, the administration has an agreement with no valid consideration, if they even have anything in writing.
 
You are looking at one study. There are others


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Article/Study

and here:

I'm sure you read the study in some detail, so could you perhaps translate this for me?

By combining analysis of monoallelic markers with recent genome-wide variation analysis of simple tandem repeats, copy number variations, and single-nucleotide polymorphisms at high density, it has been possible to determine the relative contribution of sex-specific migration and introgression to map founder events and to suggest demographic histories corresponding to western and eastern Diaspora migrations, as well as subsequent microevolutionary events.
 
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