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WH Correspondent’s Dinner - Trump evacuated, shooter in lobby
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I would very much like to discuss with you why you think private donors are funding the ballroom construction. I have proposed it is a quid pro quo. I would appreciate your opinion as to the motives of these private funders.
I have already posted that I did not think last night was staged
Let's have that ballroom discussion tomorrow.
I have already posted that I did not think last night was staged
Let's have that ballroom discussion tomorrow.
superrific
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Again I ask the trolls: who here is convinced the attack was staged?
Callatoroy
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Happy to as long as it is a good faith discussion.
Bigs23
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It’s really getting to them!
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Well, isn't it? What have we here in the USA, you know - US taxpayers - gained by this war?
I do hope Trump can find a way to mitigate the damage he's caused, but I can't see myself breaking out the pom-poms to cheer for it.
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Why the hell else would these folks fund Trump's ballroom? It's a conflict of interest that no reputable private business would allows its employees to engage in. If Biden built a ballroom as POTUS with private funds, would you be okay with that, honestly?
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theel4life
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Obviously a transgender Iranian.
superrific
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If you want it to be a good faith discussion, then you should probably come prepared to explain why private funding of a public facility -- especially the WH! - is a good thing?
Because the law normally doesn't allow it. Not just our law, either. As far as I know, no western government allows private actors to fund public projects without express authorization from the legislature or Parliament.
Now, maybe you think that's dumb. But since every country does it, and it's never been controversial, obviously the prohibition has some merit. And if you can't address that merit, then you can't have a conversation.
The starting point for every policy discussion is the rationale for the policy being discussed. Here, let me show you about tariffs. It is obvious that the tariffs have raised prices and hurt consumers. Does that make them idiotic? NO. Because maybe they accomplish something more valuable. For instance, onshoring jobs. So when I criticize the tariffs, I have to address that rationale. Which happens to be easy -- Trump's tariffs do nothing to onshore jobs because they are ill-suited for the task. If you want factories to be built here (either domestically or foreign countries) you have to make it appealing. That means you'd want cheap steel, cheap aluminum, cheap energy.
To lure business, you'd want tariffs (Trump's policy) and, say, lots of renewable energy that can come online quickly. And that's the problem. Tariffs aren't magic. They can't create jobs without support. And nobody in this administration provides that support. Indeed, they are undermining that support. They are tariffing the steel, closing the wind farms, defunding solar power, etc.
Get it? If you can't explain -- in your own words, to demonstrate understanding -- why the private ballroom should be ordinarily disallowed, then you're not having a serious conversation. After that, you can tell us your reasons why that general rule doesn't apply here.
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Yes, the credible source is that private financing of public facilities is essentially disallowed everywhere in the developed world. The reason is because it creates corruption.
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Speaking for only myself here, I only believe that last night was a FAKE NEWS FALSE FLAG STAGED HOAX when addressing drunken shitposting lawyers and little angry men whose sister-wife is the queen of their double wide trailer in BFE South Carolina. When conversing with all other intelligent life forms on either side of the political spectrum, I believe it was a legit attempt at political violence that weirdly has some very, very strange coincidences that, combined with the track record of the current administration to lie about literally everything, makes it seem more suspicious than it otherwise should.
Callatoroy
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Ahahahahahah
Look at who is spending huge chunks of their day in a far left dominated echo chamber on a daily basis crying about trump, and blaming him for everything, even claiming he staged his own assassination attempt. He owns the boards collective minds and dominates the emotional stability of this board. Misery does love company.
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Insult, demean, rinse, repeat.
Good faith discussion indeed.
I now see why you defend Trump so often. You and he have an awful lot kn common in the way you engage with people.
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Who on ZZL is claiming this?
Another proximity argument. Because the rapidity that this was turned into a political gimmick has led many to suspect fakery, that it is true that the left claims Trump staged his own assassination attempt. The reality is that we do have stupid people on our side who will claim that. Most of us realize that Trump doesn't even stage his own bowel movements anymore. If it was staged, he didn't do it.
I think it's a bit revealing that the fervor they embraced this for its political value has turned out to emphasize how futile, desperate and stupid an attempt he was making. That's not how most react after a real threat.
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4thgenheel
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butler was close.
this thing and the golf course thing really weren't all that "close."
distance wise this guy wasn't that far away but there was never a chance he was going to get into the room. too many LEO's to get through.
