2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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SnoopRob said:
I've never heard of the book or movie until you made this reference, but now I'll likely have to check one or the other out. (Probably the movie, as I'm kinda lazy on this one.)

Thanks.
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Cool Snoop; hope you like it. Looks like a few others scooped me already, but FWIW, IMHO, the film is a great place to start.
 
lawtig02 said:
The chances anyone from Trump’s side even asked McDonalds if Kamala ever worked there are pretty much nil.
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Would McDonald’s even know?

Odds are she worked for a franchisee…….do franchises share employee records with McDonald’s HQ?
 
dukeman92 said:
I will lose all faith in the American People if we elect that clown.
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It's not the majority of people, though. If Trump wins he won't win the popular vote. The problem is there are still too many racist, bigoted, ignorant people in this country that want to go back to Jim Crow and sooner because they are so scared of losing their privilege of being a straight, white Christian. This is all a war on social issues and idiots that want to go back and others who want to go forward and make this country equal for everyone.
 
CarolinaFever said:
It's not the majority of people, though. If Trump wins he won't win the popular vote. The problem is there are still too many racist, bigoted, ignorant people in this country that want to go back to Jim Crow and sooner because they are so scared of losing their privilege of being a straight, white Christian. This is all a war on social issues and idiots that want to go back and others who want to go forward and make this country equal for everyone.
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Seems to me like generally the Dems are the ones who win on the social issues and Republicans are the ones who win on the economic issues.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Seems to me like generally the Dems are the ones who win on the social issues and Republicans are the ones who win on the economic issues.
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I think historically that has been true, but Harris/Democrats are finally beginning to be polled with higher favorables than Trump/Republicans on economic issues, so it remains to be seen what the outcome will be on this particular election. Not sure if that will be a one-off for this particular election, or if people will finally start to recognize what almost all non-partisan economic data has shown over the last few decades, which is that the economy prospers more so under Democratic presidential administrations than it does under Republican ones.
 
CFordUNC said:
I think historically that has been true, but Harris/Democrats are finally beginning to be polled with higher favorables than Trump/Republicans on economic issues, so it remains to be seen what the outcome will be on this particular election. Not sure if that will be a one-off for this particular election, or if people will finally start to recognize what almost all non-partisan economic data has shown over the last few decades, which is that the economy prospers more so under Democratic presidential administrations than it does under Republican ones.
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I’ll also say, the last several Democratic victories, at least on the presidential level, have been primarily due to economics IMO.

Biden, Obama, Clinton all emphasized a pretty populist economic message in their campaigns. Don’t think they win without their economic messages.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Seems to me like generally the Dems are the ones who win on the social issues and Republicans are the ones who win on the economic issues.
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The social issues shouldn't be issues. Just let people live their best life.

The economic issues...

Well Reagan started the trend toward our current national debt, the Bush's gave us unpaid for debt, trump cut taxes for corporations and rich people...
Why would anyone trust the republicans on economic issues again?
 
CFordUNC said:
I think historically that has been true, but Harris/Democrats are finally beginning to be polled with higher favorables than Trump/Republicans on economic issues, so it remains to be seen what the outcome will be on this particular election. Not sure if that will be a one-off for this particular election, or if people will finally start to recognize what almost all non-partisan economic data has shown over the last few decades, which is that the economy prospers more so under Democratic presidential administrations than it does under Republican ones.
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Trump has a two word economic policy, tariffs and tax cuts. Shouldn't be that hard for people to understand he really doesn't have an economic policy. Maybe he has a concept of one?
 
CFordUNC said:
I think historically that has been true, but Harris/Democrats are finally beginning to be polled with higher favorables than Trump/Republicans on economic issues, so it remains to be seen what the outcome will be on this particular election. Not sure if that will be a one-off for this particular election, or if people will finally start to recognize what almost all non-partisan economic data has shown over the last few decades, which is that the economy prospers more so under Democratic presidential administrations than it does under Republican
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It will be interesting to see what the exit polling looks like in this election on the economy.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
It will be interesting to see what the exit polling looks like in this election on the economy.
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I know it, I'm definitely interested to see that, too. I've kind of always wondered- not in an incredulous way, just in a natural curiosity kind of way- what makes so many people historically believe that R's are better on the economy than D's. I wonder if it's simply the tax cuts/low tax stuff. It certainly isn't that the Republicans- at least the last 2 administrations- spend less money than the D's.
 
CFordUNC said:
I know it, I'm definitely interested to see that, too. I've kind of always wondered- not in an incredulous way, just in a natural curiosity kind of way- what makes so many people historically believe that R's are better on the economy than D's. I wonder if it's simply the tax cuts/low tax stuff. It certainly isn't that the Republicans- at least the last 2 administrations- spend less money than the D's.
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I think that’s it. It’s been baked into our political culture since at least the 1980s that tax cuts are always good and Democrats are “tax and spend liberals” (though I never really understood that label, that’s just how taxes work. I guess it’s more about fear mongering around the word tax and liberal).

I think it’s swinging back in the other direction at bit now that the results of the low tax regime have been shown to be a disaster in terms of income inequality and investment in public services.

The Democrats were often all too eager to go along with the political culture of Reagan, partially out of political necessity and partially out of political expedience.
 
CFordUNC said:
I know it, I'm definitely interested to see that, too. I've kind of always wondered- not in an incredulous way, just in a natural curiosity kind of way- what makes so many people historically believe that R's are better on the economy than D's. I wonder if it's simply the tax cuts/low tax stuff. It certainly isn't that the Republicans- at least the last 2 administrations- spend less money than the D's.
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We are in a transition period right now with demographics of the two parties changing a lot, but I think for most of my life it’d be an accurate statement to say that most business minded people vote Republican. I think that’s still true today despite a lot of big corporations going “woke” or if you don’t like that word, “becoming a lot more progressive”
 
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