2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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Paine said:
I think that’s it. It’s been baked into our political culture since at least the 1980s that tax cuts are always good and Democrats are “tax and spend liberals” (though I never really understood that label, that’s just how taxes work. I guess it’s more about fear mongering around the word tax and liberal).
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Voters want three things when it comes to the government and economic issues...

1) Lower Taxes
2) More Services
3) No Deficits

Whichever party gets closest to those three ideals will win some amount of folks who vote primarily on economic issues.
 
SnoopRob said:
Voters want three things when it comes to the government and economic issues...

1) Lower Taxes
2) More Services
3) No Deficits

Whichever party gets closest to those three ideals will win some amount of folks who vote primarily on economic issues.
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I personally would like to eat only ice cream, lose more weight, and have sparkling cholesterol levels.
 
SnoopRob said:
Voters want three things when it comes to the government and economic issues...

1) Lower Taxes
2) More Services
3) No Deficits

Whichever party gets closest to those three ideals will win some amount of folks who vote primarily on economic issues.
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Voters don’t give a rat’s ass about deficits.
 
nycfan said:
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I will say if there's one thing the GOP is good at nowadays it's in finding creative ways to divide Democrats and get them to either turn on one another or just not vote. Trump (and most of his base) hates Arabs and Muslims and if he's elected he'll go after them like he will Haitians. But right now he and his campaign keep pointing out to Arab-Americans anything they can find that will turn them against Harris. And they've done the same with black voters (especially black men), Latino voters, etc. Of course if he wins it'll be open season on these people, but they've learned how to play the "divide and conquer" game very well. Hopefully Democrats don't fall for it.
 
This could be a problem on election day. Good thing this is too far out with the weather computers to take seriously yet.

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SnoopRob said:
Voters want three things when it comes to the government and economic issues...

1) Lower Taxes
2) More Services
3) No Deficits

Whichever party gets closest to those three ideals will win some amount of folks who vote primarily on economic issues.
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I think this is absolutely true. And it's so depressing that no one ever seems to realize that 1 and 3 are in complete tension with each other.
 
Admittedly unoriginal tip of the day for those overwhelmed by the amount of information out there. When looking at national polls, the only number that really matters is Trump's. He'll end up somewhere between 46% and 48% nationally. If he's at 46%, Kamala likely wins easily. If he's at 47%, Kamala should win, but it will be close. If he's at 48%, Trump is the favorite.

538 has Trump at 46.4% right now. That's likely to go up a tiny bit as we get closer to 11/5. But he hasn't been at 47% since before Kamala took over, so chances are not great he gains six-tenths in the next two weeks, much less more than that. That means Kamala should be in great shape all the way to Election Day.
 

Trump Fights to Protect Razor-Thin Lead in North Carolina​

Some Republicans say storm damage, scandal surrounding party’s nominee for governor cause concern​


"Republican-leaning North Carolina appears headed toward a photo-finish in the presidential election, prompting former President Donald Trump to spend extra time to find an edge against Vice President Kamala Harris in a state he narrowly won four years ago.

... The Harris-Walz campaign launched voter-education and mobilization efforts across hard-hit areas in the western part of the state, including in Burke, Jackson, Buncombe, Henderson and Watauga counties, according to the campaign. The campaign’s door-knocking efforts in those counties include a “wellness check” to assess residents’ needs after the hurricane. Those conversations happen before the campaign talks about the election and how to vote, the campaign said.

Harris isn’t scheduled to visit the state this week but she was here Oct. 5 to survey the damage from Helene, and came back the following weekend. This week, she has put more focus on the “blue-wall” states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania that make up her likeliest path to capturing the White House.

... According to an analysis by Christopher Cooper, director of the Public Policy Institute at Western Carolina University, Trump won about 55% of the vote in 2020 in the 13 counties hardest hit by Helene. Biden won 45%. He said the findings indicate that much of Trump’s support is likely to be from people whose ability to vote is affected by the hurricane.

North Carolina’s GOP chairman Jason Simmons pushed back on the assessment, saying that hurricane-ravaged counties largely “are turning out in margins above where they would typically be.” North Carolina voters last week set a first-day early voting record despite continuing hurricane-recovery efforts across the state.

Cooper said Trump might be polling so closely with Harris because of the scandal surrounding Mark Robinson, the Republican candidate in the governor’s race. A CNN report last month detailed Robinson’s alleged antigay and racist comments a decade ago on an online pornography forum. It was latest scandal involving Robinson, an antiabortion candidate who has acknowledged that he had paid for his now-wife’s abortion.

Some Republicans in the state worry that Trump’s fate could be tied to Robinson, which Cooper said was a possibility.

“The best case scenario for the Republican Party is split ticket voting,” said Cooper. “The bad news scenario for Republicans is if [Robinson] takes some of these low-propensity voters and makes them stay at home on the couch.” ..."

[TELL YOUR HUSBAND TO GET HIS FAT ASS OFF THE COUCH AND VOTE??]

 
nycfan said:


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Of the many things that would surprise my 20 year younger self is how many diehard Republicans have gotten in line with Trump's anti-Iraq war rhetoric. These were the same people who questioned the patriotism of anyone who had any reserves about that war. And they support Trump 100% in this.

These people are incapable of self reflection.

I will give a few of them the benefit of the doubt that they simply reflected on it and reevaluated their position. Guarantee that that is a small percentage. The rest don't even realize their own hypocrisy on that matter.
 
lawtig02 said:
Admittedly unoriginal tip of the day for those overwhelmed by the amount of information out there. When looking at national polls, the only number that really matters is Trump's. He'll end up somewhere between 46% and 48% nationally. If he's at 46%, Kamala likely wins easily. If he's at 47%, Kamala should win, but it will be close. If he's at 48%, Trump is the favorite.

538 has Trump at 46.4% right now. That's likely to go up a tiny bit as we get closer to 11/5. But he hasn't been at 47% since before Kamala took over, so chances are not great he gains six-tenths in the next two weeks, much less more than that. That means Kamala should be in great shape all the way to Election Day.
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I know that you know this, but when push comes to shove, the only percentages that matter are those from the swing states. 44% in New York and 48% in Pennsylvania would not be good.
 
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