2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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Is Texas in play? Harris has been there several times this month. Trump is showing up today to defend it. That's some very valuable campaign time spent in a state that has been a Republican lock for decades. Ted Cruz is also looking a little vulnerable.

The polls say Harris is at a four or five-point disadvantage but maybe internal polling is showing something different. I'm hoping this turns out like some of those rust belt states that Trump won in 2016 when Hillary took them for granted.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Is Texas in play? Harris has been there several times this month. Trump is showing up today to defend it. That's some very valuable campaign time spent in a state that has been a Republican lock for decades. Ted Cruz is also looking a little vulnerable.

The polls say Harris is at a four or five-point disadvantage but maybe internal polling is showing something different. I'm hoping this turns out like some of those rust belt states that Trump won in 2016 when Hillary took them for granted.
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Ted Cruz’s seat is possibly in play. Texas is not in play for the presidential election.
 
If Democrats had run progressive candidates that embrace progressive ideals, I think we'd get shellacked in this election. As it stands, the reason why Harris even has an edge in a razor-thin election is because of her ability to entice crossover voters from the moderate conservative ranks.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
I’m checking out. These polls are crazy. Democrats need to start to run progressive candidates that embrace progressive ideals. I’m resigned to a very bad result.
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Agreed man, but don’t resign yourself too much yet. It’s still a toss-up. Let’s get Harris in there and then push as hard as we can for her to embrace some economic populist/progressive ideals.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
I’m checking out. These polls are crazy. Democrats need to start to run progressive candidates that embrace progressive ideals. I’m resigned to a very bad result.
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Or Pubs can just run lunatics like Mark Robinson-I mean that works also lol
 
Paine said:
Agreed man, but don’t resign yourself too much yet. It’s still a toss-up. Let’s get Harris in there and then push as hard as we can for her to embrace some economic populist/progressive ideals.
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I'll say this, as someone who was essentially bred by Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Ron Paul, and Sean Hannity to believe that the word 'progressive' was a swear word, I have found myself becoming more and more open to wanting to understand and learn more about progressive ideological ideals and policy proposals. Not to say, of course, that I'd always agree with them, but I am at least becoming more and more interested in wanting to learn.
 
CFordUNC said:
If Democrats had run progressive candidates that embrace progressive ideals, I think we'd get shellacked in this election. As it stands, the reason why Harris even has an edge in a razor-thin election is because of her ability to entice crossover voters from the moderate conservative ranks.
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She doesn’t have an edge. A 1-2 point lead nationally means a Trump presidency. The only hope she has is the hidden vote against the Dobbs. When I say progressive, I’m not saying taxpayer funded trans-surgeries. The Democrats need to run to the working men and women. Tax policies, health care, topics that average Americans deal with every day.
 
CFordUNC said:
I'll say this, as someone who was essentially bred by Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Ron Paul, and Sean Hannity to believe that the word 'progressive' was a swear word, I have found myself becoming more and more open to wanting to understand and learn more about progressive ideological ideals and policy proposals. Not to say, of course, that I'd always agree with them, but I am at least becoming more and more interested in wanting to learn.
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My DMs are always open to talk about it. I can somewhat understand how the word “liberal” was effectively demonized by the right, but the word “progressive” contains what it means. I think it’s a powerful word, it’s easy to understand. More than that, America has rich tradition of progressivism.

Hell, the man in my profile picture has somehow been effectively co-opted by the right in this country even though he advocated for a welfare state before anyone even knew what that was.

The Farmer-Labor alliance of the late 1800s dominated rural political life and was decidedly progressive on economics.

Anyways, always down to talk about it like I said. Podcast and book recommendations etc.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
She doesn’t have an edge. A 1-2 point lead nationally means a Trump presidency. The only hope she has is the hidden vote against the Dobbs. When I say progressive, I’m not saying taxpayer funded trans-surgeries. The Democrats need to run to the working men and women. Tax policies, health care, topics that average Americans deal with every day.
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She definitely has an edge. The lead is more like 3-4 points nationally from what I've seen. It's still going to be close, no question about it, but she would be a slight favorite right now if it were a college football game being bet upon. Harris has way more upside than Trump as it pertains to garnering silent and/or crossover voters, last-minute "undecideds", first-time youth voters, etc.

I won't presume to tell you how to feel about this election, but personally I think you would much, much rather be the Harris campaign than the Trump campaign if your goal is winning.
 
Paine said:
My DMs are always open to talk about it. I can somewhat understand how the word “liberal” was effectively demonized by the right, but the word “progressive” contains what it means. I think it’s a powerful word, it’s easy to understand. More than that, America has rich tradition of progressivism.

Hell, the man in my profile picture has somehow been effectively co-opted by the right in this country even though he advocated for a welfare state before anyone even knew what that was.

The Farmer-Labor alliance of the late 1800s dominated rural political life and was decidedly progressive on economics.

Anyways, always down to talk about it like I said. Podcast and book recommendations etc.
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I think this is a great conversation to have after the election. It can either be triumphant or part of a "long winter" study program so to speak.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
She doesn’t have an edge. A 1-2 point lead nationally means a Trump presidency. The only hope she has is the hidden vote against the Dobbs. When I say progressive, I’m not saying taxpayer funded trans-surgeries. The Democrats need to run to the working men and women. Tax policies, health care, topics that average Americans deal with every day.
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This x10,000
 
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