2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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TarHeelGrad said:
Can someone opine on something like this? Don't really care too much about states that are totally red. But how would this play out in the Blue Wall, or areas like Arizona or Nevada.
In other words, is it at all feasible that this election could come down to Congress voting on who is President?
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That would end America. So they can try, but that would be it
 
TarHeelGrad said:
Can someone opine on something like this? Don't really care too much about states that are totally red. But how would this play out in the Blue Wall, or areas like Arizona or Nevada.
In other words, is it at all feasible that this election could come down to Congress voting on who is President?
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short answer is yes with a 268-268 EC. I think that is highly unlikely. The winner will get a minimum of 276 EC votes and probably over 300 EC votes

Of course if it is 269-269 the house will select Trump.

If Trump has to win I would prefer that he is the clear EC winner with 300+ votes and that he will lose the popular vote by 10 million votes. In that scenario maybe a consensus in the country will demand the elimination of the EC
 
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heelinhell said:
short answer is yes with a 268-268 EC. I think that is highly unlikely. The winner will get a minimum of 276 EC votes and probably over 300 EC votes

Of course if it is 268-268 the house will select Trump.

If Trump has to win I would prefer that he is the clear EC winner with 300+ votes and that he will lose the popular vote by 10 million votes. In that scenario maybe a consensus in the country will demand the elimination of the EC
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Harris might win with 270 (AZ, NV, GA, and NC go to Trump); Trump might win with 272 (AZ, GA, NC, and WI go to Trump and NV to Harris). In both scenarios, Harris wins Pennsylvania.

It’s not going to be 268-268.

It’s coming down to Pennsyltucky and lily white Wisconsin.

I just don’t see Harris winning GA, NC, or AZ.
 
Zoo_View said:
Harris might win with 270 (AZ, NV, GA, and NC go to Trump); Trump might win with 272 (AZ, GA, NC, and WI go to Trump and NV to Harris). In both scenarios, Harris wins Pennsylvania.

It’s not going to be 268-268.

It’s coming down to Pennsyltucky and lily white Wisconsin.

I just don’t see Harris winning GA, NC, or AZ.
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She could very well win one of those states.
 
heelinhell said:
short answer is yes with a 268-268 EC. I think that is highly unlikely. The winner will get a minimum of 276 EC votes and probably over 300 EC votes

Of course if it is 268-268 the house will select Trump.

If Trump has to win I would prefer that he is the clear EC winner with 300+ votes and that he will lose the popular vote by 10 million votes. In that scenario maybe a consensus in the country will demand the elimination of the EC
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Trump is going to declare he is the winner even if he loses every swing state. His supporters will claim the losses are fraudulent and in several of these states, local election official positions have become much more partisan over the last 4 years. Think the psychos who have taken over small town school boards.

It doesn’t have to be a razor thin election for them to try to blow things up. What’s stopping some local goofballs in BFE, Wisconsin from trying to delay/stop the state certification because they are just sure that Milwaukee County’s count is “rigged?”
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
Trump is going to declare he is the winner even if he loses every swing state. His supporters will claim the losses are fraudulent and in several of these states, local election official positions have become much more partisan over the last 4 years. Think the psychos who have taken over small town school boards.

It doesn’t have to be a razor thin election for them to try to blow things up. What’s stopping some local goofballs in BFE, Wisconsin from trying to delay/stop the state certification because they are just sure that Milwaukee County’s count is “rigged?”
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Jail
 
RockyMtnHoo said:
I’d only be ok with a federal pardon for Trump from Biden on one huge condition. If granted, he can’t give one interview or put anything on social media claiming anything was stolen. The first time he does, it’s off the table.
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And he can’t be preemptively pardoned like Nixon. The trials must take place and the evidence presented to the American public. Once he is convicted the sentences will be commuted, but if he violates any terms of the agreement the commutation is rescinded.
 
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