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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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Trump is going to flip
Yeah, we're at the "steering the US economy away from a ditch so we don't end up in a recession is unacceptable election manipulation" stage of stupid.

I wish the Fed would have raised by a quarter basis point at the last meeting. They must have know that it was the right thing to do at the time and that they were going to get heat no matter what. Now the right thing to do is a half basis point cut closer to the election. They kinda screwed themselves.
 
Brain Worm is speaking and has endorsed Trump. Oh Nos! He has also tanned the hell out of his face, so he's fully on the Trumpium.

Crazy loves crazy
 
Yes, there is a TON of momentum for the Harris camp at the moment, and I’m feeling really positive. But we aren’t out of the woods yet. The NEXT most important event is on September 10 when she debates Trump. If she treats him like any prosecutor treats a criminal, and wipes the floor with him, THEN I think we will get some breathing room. Till then, I will bask in the current momentum.
 

"... In just two weeks, Sept. 6, the first mail ballots get sent to voters. The first presidential debate is set for Sept. 10. Former President Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, is scheduled to be sentenced in his New York hush money case on Sept. 18. And early in-person voting will start as soon as Sept. 20 in some states.

... North Carolina will begin sending mail ballots to all voters who request them, including military personnel and overseas voters, in just two weeks, Sept. 6.
 
100%. Everyone was exclaiming, just get a younger candidate! Any candidate that's not old! And so they did. And now that candidate doesn't have the required experience because they haven't been president before. wtf.
Democrats putting forth a younger candidate is precisely why they’re now likely going to win the election, when Biden would’ve gotten crushed.

I know it’s easy to lose perspective on a message board where 95% of the people are voting for the same side, but there are in fact unaffiliated voters out there who would’ve voted for Trump over Biden but will vote for Harris over Trump. Perfectly logical.

Of course entrenched Republicans aren’t going to change their vote from Trump to Harris. But Biden was bleeding support among moderates. Harris seems to winning a good portion of those moderates back.

Even as someone who isn’t flipping to Harris, I feel 10x more confident in Harris to be president than I did Biden. She and I don’t agree on many issues but she’s at least a functioning human and won’t be an automatic global embarrassment.
 
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Democrats putting forth a younger candidate is precisely why they’re now likely going to win the election, when Biden would’ve gotten crushed.

I know it’s easy to lose perspective on a message board where 95% of the people are voting for the same side, but there are in fact unaffiliated voters out there who would’ve voted for Trump over Biden but will vote for Harris over Trump. Perfectly logical.

Of course entrenched Republicans aren’t going to change their vote from Trump to Harris. But Biden was bleeding support among moderates. Harris seems to winning a good portion of those moderates back.

Even as someone who isn’t flipping to Harris, I feel 10x more confident in Harris to be president than I did Biden. She and I don’t agree on many issues but she’s at least a functioning human and won’t be an automatic global embarrassment.
If you want a functioning human who won’t be a global embarrassment then you wouldn’t be voting for Trump. Rank hypocrisy.
 
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I think this is interesting to consider. I do think that conservatism as a serious political movement in America has completely collapsed. I think we will be dealing with pockets of the remnants for quite a while in places like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, etc.- not to mention on the Supreme Court- but based on the embarrassment of riches that was on display at the DNC this week, juxtaposed against the embarrassment of ideological poverty that was on display at the RNC, I think that nationally/federally we are headed toward an era of center-left legislative power. I think that the purpling- and eventual blue’ing- of states like Texas, Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia is going to relegate American conservatism to the dustbin of history. The party of Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush’s, McCain, and Romney is dead, gone, and buried forever. Donald Trump has proven Lindsey Graham to be the greatest political prophet in history: “if we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed. And we will deserve it.”
 
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I think this is interesting to consider. I do think that conservatism as a serious political movement in America has completely collapsed. I think we will be dealing with pockets of the remnants for quite a while in places like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, etc.- not to mention on the Supreme Court- but based on the embarrassment of riches that was on display at the DNC this week, juxtaposed against the embarrassment of ideological poverty that was on display at the RNC, I think that nationally/federally we are headed toward an era of center-left legislative power. I think that the purpling- and eventual blue’ing- of states like Texas, Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia is going to relegate American conservatism to the dustbin of history. The party of Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush’s, McCain, and Romney is dead, gone, and buried forever. Donald Trump has proven Lindsey Graham to be the greatest political prophet in history: “if we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed. And we will deserve it.”
 
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Democrats putting forth a younger candidate is precisely why they’re now likely going to win the election, when Biden would’ve gotten crushed.

I know it’s easy to lose perspective on a message board where 95% of the people are voting for the same side, but there are in fact unaffiliated voters out there who would’ve voted for Trump over Biden but will vote for Harris over Trump. Perfectly logical.

Of course entrenched Republicans aren’t going to change their vote from Trump to Harris. But Biden was bleeding support among moderates. Harris seems to winning a good portion of those moderates back.

Even as someone who isn’t flipping to Harris, I feel 10x more confident in Harris to be president than I did Biden. She and I don’t agree on many issues but she’s at least a functioning human and won’t be an automatic global embarrassment.
you have daughters?
 
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I think this is interesting to consider. I do think that conservatism as a serious political movement in America has completely collapsed. I think we will be dealing with pockets of the remnants for quite a while in places like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, etc.- not to mention on the Supreme Court- but based on the embarrassment of riches that was on display at the DNC this week, juxtaposed against the embarrassment of ideological poverty that was on display at the RNC, I think that nationally/federally we are headed toward an era of center-left legislative power. I think that the purpling- and eventual blue’ing- of states like Texas, Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia is going to relegate American conservatism to the dustbin of history. The party of Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush’s, McCain, and Romney is dead, gone, and buried forever. Donald Trump has proven Lindsey Graham to be the greatest political prophet in history: “if we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed. And we will deserve it.”
I disagree.

Given how the Constitution apportions Senate and House seats and how the Electoral College is constructed, the GOP has built in advantages - in the US, land matters more than number of citizens in terms of representation AND corporations are people, too.

It takes a Trump for the GOP to lose. Run Lady G, Little Marco, Brian Kemp, the Virginia governor who pretends he isn’t right-wing, etc. and the GOP wins.

I do agree that a principled, conservative GOP is dead. I doubt it has existed in my voting lifetime (1980). Remember, the sainted Ronald Reagan and his campaign back-channeled the Carter Administration to get Iran to release the hostages AFTER the election. Before Reagan was elected and his tax cuts passed, deficits mattered. Then, we have Inran-Contra. Let’s throw in a little Lee Atwater detailing what the Southern Strategy code words meant; he was on his deathbed looking for forgiveness.

The principled, conservative GOP is dead and cold.

The modern MAGA GOP is alive and well and a threat to take and hold the Oval Office, Senate, House, SCOTUS, and many (most) states for a good long while.
 
"mom/dad, why did you vote for that man that was convicted of sexual assault?"
My daughter is 2. Doubt she’s worried about which politician I vote for. Just like I have no clue who my parents voted for when I was 2. She’s more concerned with watching Paw Patrol.
 
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