2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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HeelYeah2012 said:
Silly argument. There are plenty of things in society that are designed to protect children from things they aren’t mature enough to handle. Do you just let your kids watch porn or drink alcohol or drive a car at whatever age they want?

Children shouldn’t be subjected to books about “dads” being pregnant or other types of weird indoctrination related to sexuality or transgenderism
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So just reading about a certain subject means you are being indoctrinated? Reading about and seeing trans people doesn't make someone trans. Pubs get upset about this stuff but won't do anything to protect kids from school shootings, and don't care about kids being bullied or having the same rights because they are trans or queer, even though it doesn't hurt anyone else. That's weird.
 
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HeelYeah2012 said:
Silly argument. There are plenty of things in society that are designed to protect children from things they aren’t mature enough to handle. Do you just let your kids watch porn or drink alcohol or drive a car at whatever age they want?

Children shouldn’t be subjected to books about “dads” being pregnant or other types of weird indoctrination related to sexuality or transgenderism
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That book should probably not be in lower grade libraries. I don't know that it was.

Out of curiosity, are you okay with the Bible being in school libraries? Talk about indoctrination. What about young kids going to church ti be indoctrinated before their minds are fully developed? Any issues with that?
 
Yet he wants to deport people that served in the military.
HeelYeah2012 said:
Silly argument. There are plenty of things in society that are designed to protect children from things they aren’t mature enough to handle. Do you just let your kids watch porn or drink alcohol or drive a car at whatever age they want?

Children shouldn’t be subjected to books about “dads” being pregnant or other types of weird indoctrination related to sexuality or transgenderism
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who is subjecting them to it?

It is a shame that you want to continue to outcast children of gay or transgendered parents since they wouldn’t have book representing their families.
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
That book should probably not be in lower grade libraries. I don't know that it was.

Out of curiosity, are you okay with the Bible being in school libraries? Talk about indoctrination. What about young kids going to church ti be indoctrinated before their minds are fully developed? Any issues with that?
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No. Cuz that is not "weird." Duh. It is only indoctrination if it is "weird."
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
That book should probably not be in lower grade libraries. I don't know that it was.

Out of curiosity, are you okay with the Bible being in school libraries? Talk about indoctrination. What about young kids going to church ti be indoctrinated before their minds are fully developed? Any issues with that?
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Glad you agree that book should be nowhere near young children. Unfortunately you’d be surprised what children’s books you can find in libraries these days.

The Bible shouldn’t be in school libraries either in my opinion but I’m also not that religious so I have no strong feelings either way. I would rather the Bible be in a school library than some of these other books, but I would certainly prefer “neither” over “both”

Parents forcing their kids into religion is absolutely a form of indoctrination. Exposing your kids to religion is fine and nowhere near as concerning or weird as exposing your kids to the idea of pregnant men, but I do feel a tad uncomfortable when people’s young kids become super religious. But again, I’m not very religious so maybe I just can’t relate.
 
We're getting close to a hijack, so I'll be brief.

The main purpose of books like "Heather Has Two Mommies" (that was the title that the GOP used to fixate on) isn't to recruit kids. Duh. I would have thought you would understand that by now. Rather, it's to teach other children not to ostracize other kids just because their family circumstances are different.

And maybe you think ostracizing children because of the choices of their parents is good. That's the GOP position on a number of issues (including DREAMers). I do not think that is ever the right thing to do. It doesn't matter if you approve of gay parents having children or a trans person having a child. Treating those children badly is inappropriate.

I have autistic boys. Twenty years ago, they would have been stigmatized. Remember all the jokes about "the short bus"? I guess they are still around but they are frowned on, and one reason is that schools have decided that autistic kids, while different, are just as valuable as anyone else. And the world is better for that new tolerance. My boys can't help who they are. Kids of gay parents can't help that. So libraries absolutely should have books that affirm every child's family experience.

Also, I have my suspicions that the book in question is actually written by a right-winger trying to stir the pot more than it already is.
 
CFordUNC said:
Oh absolutely, no doubt. We still have to put in the work every day, we can’t get complacent, and we have to get out the vote. No doubt about that at all. But in every possible, imaginable way I would much, much, much, much rather be in the Democrats’ position right now than the Republicans’, which is essentially a complete 180° turn from how it felt just over four weeks ago.
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You are truly the Tim Walz of this board and of course I mean that as a compliment...
 

“An Iranian hacker group targeted the WhatsApp accounts of individuals associated with the administrations of President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump, Meta announced Friday.

“This malicious activity originated in Iran and attempted to target individuals in Israel, Palestine, Iran, the United States and the UK,” the social media giant said in a statement, noting that the effort primarily focused on “political and diplomatic officials, and other public figures, including some associated with administrations of President Biden and former President Trump.”

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Just last week, Google said an alleged Iranian hacking operation aimed at US presidential campaigns is ongoing and wide-ranging, after the platform announced unsuccessful attempts by hackers to log in to the email accounts of people associated with Biden, Trump, Vice President Kamala Harris and both the Democratic and Republican presidential campaigns.

On Monday, US intelligence agencies officially linked Iran to an instance of a hack and leak operationtargeting Trump’s campaign, after hackers used access to Trump operative Roger Stone’s email account to try to break into the account of another campaign official. …”
 
Paine said:
www.nytimes.com

Meet the Rural Voters Who Could Swing North Carolina’s Election (Published 2024)

Residents in Wilson County worry about the rising costs of goods and housing — but mostly they just want to get along.
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NYT article about the presidential election in Wilson County, NC. As someone from Wilson, it’s depressing but seems about right.

Glad so many people are still voting for Trump because he’s a “business man” and because “they” tried to kill him. What a farce.
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Isn't it 'sposed to be Wil"t"son? And farce is innocent!
 
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