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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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heelinhell said:
You are not clogging up the thread and you raise a good point.

I disagree with the Cheney clan on 99.99% of the issues. That said, this election is about more than issues; this election is about the survival of our democratic republic.

If Liz and her dad can deliver the one vote that decides the win for Kamala then god bless them.

After that I will oppose 99.99% of every domestic and foreign relations policy they promote.
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This is no different than the US/Britian aligning with Soviets during WW2 against the common enemy of Fascism. We and Soviets disagreed on EVERYTHING except the most important thing- Defeating Hilter and fascism
 
superrific said:
Bottom line: The Dems have access to the smartest people in the country. You probably weren't alive in 92 when Clinton did "A Man From Hope" at the DNC, but at the time, it was incredibly buzzy. It was made by two TV producers (I don't remember their names) who had a string of hit shows under their belt, and they gave Clinton a Hollywood treatment. It hadn't been done before.
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Linda Bloodworth-Thomason & Harry Thomason.

Not only did they have a number of successful TV shows, but they were shows like Designing Women and Evening Shade that appealed to suburban and rural white folks.

The interesting thing is that I believe they worked with Hillary during her Senate campaign, but not on her presidential run.
 
Willy said:
As a moderate independent, I just did my part and voted a straight Democratic ticket in NC, as I will continue to do until the Republican Party completely distances itself from Trump and any other fascist.
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What county are you voting in? I'm in Wilson, I just went down to vote and they were closed. Checked the website and yep, all three locations in Wilson are closed today. Open last Saturday and all last week, and open tomorrow and all next week, but closed today? Odd...
 
SnoopRob said:
Linda Bloodworth-Thomason & Harry Thomason.

Not only did they have a number of successful TV shows, but they were shows like Designing Women and Evening Shade that appealed to suburban and rural white folks.

The interesting thing is that I believe they worked with Hillary during her Senate campaign, but not on her presidential run.
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Well, they were old in 2016. Probably retired, and even if not, not active. It's hard for senior citizens to make buzzy media. Plus, again, HRC didn't lack for creatives.
 
Duke Mu said:
That's not completely true. Obama also appealed to suburban Philly and Cleveland voters - moderates and even some Republicans. HRC lost the suburban women's vote as well as the working class.

The difference today is the gender gap. Kamala is counting on the Coalition and suburban women in Milwaukee, Detroit, That includes Nikki voters. When the margin is razor thin, you open that umbrella and add to the Coalition.

Trump's strategy is to suppress coalition voters who could beat him, while playing Pied Piper to white voters who don't normally vote.
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One thing that happened in 2008 was the emergence of what I will call pre-Trumpism that turned off a number of Republicans. There were quite a few pubs who were very turned off by Sarah Palin, due to both her lack of qualification and to her rhetoric (trying to define who the real Americans are). I know a number of people— longtime loyal republicans— who fled the party at the point.
 
superrific said:
Well, they were old in 2016. Probably retired, and even if not, not active. It's hard for senior citizens to make buzzy media. Plus, again, HRC didn't lack for creatives.
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They were 69 (LBT) and 75 (HT) in 2016.

HRC didn't need them as creatives, she needed them to help craft a message that would appeal to white working class voters. I'm guessing many of HRC's creatives didn't have that skill in their toolkit.
 
hedge said:
What county are you voting in? I'm in Wilson, I just went down to vote and they were closed. Checked the website and yep, all three locations in Wilson are closed today. Open last Saturday and all last week, and open tomorrow and all next week, but closed today? Odd...
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Forsyth.
 
If the Democratic Party can't win with 1) the actual truth and 2) a billion dollars at their disposal (which I would spend on combatting the Trump misinformation) then the Democratic party apparatus needs to be remade from the ground up. That is, if we even have another election anytime in the near future ☹️

And if we somehow do manage to, the first thing they need to do is to stop hiring people who've lost their elections to head the DNC (e.g., Tom Perez, Jaime Harrison). Find a David Plouffe or David Axelrod type instead who can actually win.
 
nycfan said:


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So, the claim is ttump will be a "president for all americans", will "protect the curriculum in our schools", because "we want a strong border", and "we want a strong economy" and "we want to make america great again through peace and justice for all". Something tells me there's more to the endorsement.
 
korgguy1971 said:
If the Democratic Party can't win with 1) the actual truth and 2) a billion dollars at their disposal (which I would spend on combatting the Trump misinformation) then the Democratic party apparatus needs to be remade from the ground up. That is, if we even have another election anytime in the near future ☹️

And if we somehow do manage to, the first thing they need to do is to stop hiring people who've lost their elections to head the DNC (e.g., Tom Perez, Jaime Harrison). Find a David Plouffe or David Axelrod type instead who can actually win.
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should’ve happened after 2016
 
korgguy1971 said:
If the Democratic Party can't win with 1) the actual truth and 2) a billion dollars at their disposal (which I would spend on combatting the Trump misinformation) then the Democratic party apparatus needs to be remade from the ground up. That is, if we even have another election anytime in the near future ☹️

And if we somehow do manage to, the first thing they need to do is to stop hiring people who've lost their elections to head the DNC (e.g., Tom Perez, Jaime Harrison). Find a David Plouffe or David Axelrod type instead who can actually win.
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Agree. They have desperately needed an aggressive, offensive marketer and campaigner.
 
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