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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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I think we way overuse “whistleblower” these days to imbue people with unearned credibility, so grain of salt on this report, but it is easy to believe about the grift at the top b/c it appears from the outside to be grift all the way down.
 
John Heilemann reporting on MSNBC this morning that the Harris campaign is not very optimistic about NC or AZ. Holding out hope for Georgia.
 
altmin said:
John Heilemann reporting on MSNBC this morning that the Harris campaign is not very optimistic about NC or AZ. Holding out hope for Georgia.
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Yeah, AZ looks bad. Anecdotally, I will say that the early long lines for voting have dissipated in my red county. My son strolled in and voted without a wait on Saturday morning and the early voting location hasn’t been overflowing since the first several days it opened.

So it’s the Blue Wall and the Blue Dot or bust.
 
I guess it’s the last week of the election season because Democrats, if this board is any indicator, have seemingly resigned themselves to defeat.

Folks: the. race. has. not. changed. in. weeks. if. not. months. It hasn’t. This board was brimming with confidence during the DNC and shortly thereafter. The race hasn’t changed since then. Stop obeying in advance.
 
CFordUNC said:
I guess it’s the last week of the election season because Democrats, if this board is any indicator, have seemingly resigned themselves to defeat.
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I mean, if we are all seeing the same numbers then I don't see why we wouldn't be. The data isn't looking great.

That 270-268 scenario is looking more likely as the only possible way to a W it seems.
 
nycfan said:
Yeah, AZ looks bad. Anecdotally, I will say that the early long lines for voting have dissipated in my red county. My son strolled in and voted without a wait on Saturday morning and the early voting location hasn’t been overflowing since the first several days it opened.

So it’s the Blue Wall and the Blue Dot or bust.
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That's means they voted early.
 
lightbluenc said:
I mean, if we are all seeing the same numbers then I don't see why we wouldn't be. The data isn't looking great.

That 270-268 scenario is looking more likely as the only possible way to a W it seems.
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The data hasn’t changed. There have been tiny movements within the margin of error. That’s it. This is all nothing more than people’s stress and anxiety. I’m not blaming anyone for feeling those things, but those are the explanation for the doom and gloom, not any actual meaningful data.
 
CFordUNC said:
The data hasn’t changed. There have been tiny movements within the margin of error. That’s it. This is all nothing more than people’s stress and anxiety. I’m not blaming anyone for feeling those things, but those are the explanation for the doom and gloom, not any actual meaningful data.
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Idk, we’re getting national polls that have trump above 50. We’re getting high quality state polls today in places we need to win that have him above 50. That’s different.
I’ve thought for the past week, Harris is maxed out at 286. NC is a cess pool and won’t vote for her (I did my part)
Arizona and nevada are not breaking her way.
Comes down to michigan, Wisconsin, PA and GA and we have to win 3 of those
 
I can’t be the only one who can’t wrap their head around what’s happening here. For Pete’s sake, every communication out of the republicans at this stage is about fascisim and racism and hatred, and they are doing it brazenly because it plays very well, apparently. And the people yell hurray because they think this is fun? Wtf. If Trump wins some sort of me wants the whole thing to collapse in on itself. And while everyone suffers, those dumbasses I want to suffer disproportionately so. I would want so bad for them to be crushed under their decision and feel the realization of their own dumbass. I want them to have eternal ridicule and derision.

Hitler had a war to drive the “success” of his regime, at least for a while. What tf do our current numb nuts have when it all collapses. What’s the thing that makes them feel good about what’s happening. Another war? It’s all disgusting and repulsive.
 
nycfan said:
It ain’t over yet, but probably not NC’s year to shine.
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Most folks take for granted that they’ll have another legit chance to shine. For possibly generations, should the GQP take power, they absolutely will not conduct free and fair elections.

Every election is framed as the most important. However, every subsequent election against an overtly fascist and retributive authoritarian party is indeed the most important. Democracy desperately needs NC to come through, bc I don’t trust WI and MI.
 
CFordUNC said:
The data hasn’t changed. There have been tiny movements within the margin of error. That’s it. This is all nothing more than people’s stress and anxiety. I’m not blaming anyone for feeling those things, but those are the explanation for the doom and gloom, not any actual meaningful data.
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You're right, just the early vote data doesn't seem to be as strong for Dems as we hoped it'd would be. And there's still a lot of guesswork involved there since its just registered party etc etc, but I'd hoped for better turnout numbers at this stage from registered Dems here in NC.
 
Awinisawin said:
I can’t be the only one who can’t wrap their head around what’s happening here. For Pete’s sake, every communication out of the republicans at this stage is about fascisim and racism and hatred, and they are doing it brazenly because it plays very well, apparently. And the people yell hurray because they think this is fun? Wtf. If Trump wins some sort of me wants the whole thing to collapse in on itself. And while everyone suffers, those dumbasses I want to suffer disproportionately so. I would want so bad for them to be crushed under their decision and feel the realization of their own dumbass. I want them to have eternal ridicule and derision.

Hitler had a war to drive the “success” of his regime, at least for a while. What tf do our current numb nuts have when it all collapses. What’s the thing that makes them feel good about what’s happening. Another war? It’s all disgusting and repulsive.
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This is what I struggle with. I am a straight white male with no debt and own property in two countries, neither of which is the United States. I have absolutely nothing to lose if Trump is elected and I am terrified. You then see people who have everything from their family member's presence in the U.S., to the cost of everyday goods, to the status of their marriages, to the fact that themselves and/or their female relatives could die in a hospital parking lot and they are like "OH YEAH, I WANT THAT!"

Misinformation, ignorance, hatred, fear of the other - the four horsemen of this election.
 
nycfan said:


I think we way overuse “whistleblower” these days to imbue people with unearned credibility, so grain of salt on this report, but it is easy to believe about the grift at the top b/c it appears from the outside to be grift all the way down.
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Grift and greed...in the Republican Party?!?

I am so shocked I will need to take the rest of the day to recover.
 
altmin said:
John Heilemann reporting on MSNBC this morning that the Harris campaign is not very optimistic about NC or AZ. Holding out hope for Georgia.
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Yeah that conflicts what someone was reporting on the campaign on Friday (they feel hopeful about NC, more confident about GA and think Arizona is not overly likely this time)
 
lightbluenc said:
You're right, just the early vote data doesn't seem to be as strong for Dems as we hoped it'd would be. And there's still a lot of guesswork involved there since its just registered party etc etc, but I'd hoped for better turnout numbers at this stage from registered Dems here in NC.
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Are you saying dems arent voting, or that the GOP is voting early?
 
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