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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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People HATED Michelle Obama for trying to make school lunches healthier.

 
nycfan said:
People HATED Michelle Obama for trying to make school lunches healthier.

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I don't want to sound like one of those people who dismiss everything Trump says, but even if he's elected, the odds RFK actually has a role in Trump's administration are about 2%.
 
nycfan said:
People HATED Michelle Obama for trying to make school lunches healthier.

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Michelle Obama’s platforms were so positive and could have helped so much when it came to Covid. The country is fat and getting fatter. Yet Republicans mocked it and got big slurpies and candy bars.
 
lawtig02 said:
I don't want to sound like one of those people who dismiss everything Trump says, but even if he's elected, the odds RFK actually has a role in Trump's administration are about 2%.
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What? I'd say it's pretty much assured unless the roadblock is Senate approval and the Pubs can't get him through the Senate.

Trump doesn't care who carries out the details of his administration and he'll reward loyalty unless there's a reason not to (or until he decides someone is no longer sufficiently loyal).
 
SnoopRob said:
What? I'd say it's pretty much assured unless the roadblock is Senate approval and the Pubs can't get him through the Senate.

Trump doesn't care who carries out the details of his administration and he'll reward loyalty unless there's a reason not to (or until he decides someone is no longer sufficiently loyal).
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They won't get him through the Senate to do the shit he's talking about.

But more importantly, Trump doesn't give a shit about RFK. He just liked the name. RFK is going to be more Peter Navarro than anyone important.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Oh snap, I’ve made a mistake! I voted early and my wife is waiting until Election Day. I should’ve made sure to go with her so that I could “harass” her from the voting booth next to her on Election Day.

Edit: since heelsfan108 reacted “wow” to my post - the above was sarcasm, for anyone who didn’t know. I find it hard to believe that any significant portion of men would harass their wives at the ballot box, so it was a joke. Thought that was clear.
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You find a lot of things hard to believe just because they don't happen to you. You are but a pimple on a pimple on a pimple. We all are. But some of us have tried to learn about the world instead of pretending that the whole thing revolves around us.

Here's a hint. A lot of shit happens in the world. If it doesn't happen to you, then good for you -- you've been fortunate. Those who are less fortunate are not in the same place.

There are enough women scared of this that vote secrecy has gone viral. Maybe you don't know everything there is to know about the lives of women?

msmagazine.com

Women, Your Vote Is a Secret, Says New Guerrilla Post-It Campaign

In a world where the political gender gap is growing as women move left, a clever grassroots campaign is reminding women of a fundamental truth: Their vote is private. This
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When couples vote by mail, “what happens is the man and woman sit down to vote together,” said Democratic pollster Celinda Lake during a conversation at the DNC. “She’s intimidated that he’s got more information.”

Lake said it may be easier for women to vote their preference when voting in person. “Of course, we’re pushing vote by mail and early voting,” Lake continued, “because it increases democratic participation. But in doing that, we have to empower women to have their own way of doing things. One of the things to say to them is, ‘Vote on your own schedule’—i.e., Don’t sit down with the guy.”
 
SnoopRob said:
What? I'd say it's pretty much assured unless the roadblock is Senate approval and the Pubs can't get him through the Senate.

Trump doesn't care who carries out the details of his administration and he'll reward loyalty unless there's a reason not to (or until he decides someone is no longer sufficiently loyal).
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I just have a feeling Trump thinks RFK is a complete idiot and will have no qualms about tossing him over the side if he wins.
 
lawtig02 said:
Tonight's speech on the Ellipse could not come at a better time. The media has been talking nonstop about Trump, and not in a positive way. We're one week out now, so even the people who hate politics are finally tuning in. The backdrop should be great. The symbolism should be great. And Kamala does really well with these types of speeches, probably because she's made hundreds of actual closing arguments in her career. I'm excited to hear it, and I have a strong feeling it will be a big positive for her as we enter crunch time.
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Just as an aside, I don't think there's any way Kamala made hundreds of closing arguments in her career. Maybe a couple dozen.
 
nycfan said:
People HATED Michelle Obama for trying to make school lunches healthier.

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Yeah anyone who believes this is a freaking moron. I'm sure they're going to be directing all the money public schools would need to prepare and serve all fresh foods.
 
lawtig02 said:
I don't want to sound like one of those people who dismiss everything Trump says, but even if he's elected, the odds RFK actually has a role in Trump's administration are about 2%.
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Gonna have to disagree with you there. Who knows how long he'll last, but I don't doubt that Trump will put him in the admin from the start.
 
rodoheel said:
Just as an aside, I don't think there's any way Kamala made hundreds of closing arguments in her career. Maybe a couple dozen.
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Yeah, I don't know the actual number, but she was a deputy DA in Alameda County for eight years and an assistant DA in San Francisco for two years. From the DAs I know in Charlotte, she likely tried 100+ cases over those ten years. So "hundreds" may be an exaggeration, but I'm thinking she has a ton of courtroom experience.
 
LeoBloom said:
Absolutely. She needs to present the stark contrast between her hopeful vision and Trump's hateful vision. She needs to hammer Trump or his violent and offensive rhetoric and associations, but that should not be the core of her speech. It is a fine line, for sure. But this is a speech to instill a sense of hope about America. It is a build people up speech.
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Bingo. I'm no speechwriter but I can see the outlines. You don't even have to mention Trump by name, and in fact I wouldn't. You can paint the insurrection, which started at the admonition of her opponent at the very spot she'll be speaking, as inherently un-American. Same with calling political opponents the enemy from within. Same with calling parts of America floating garbage. Pivot to we can disagree without being disagreeable. Dissent is vital to our democracy's survival. We're stronger because we can voice our disagreement. You can't threaten to jail people or revoke broadcasting licenses because you disagree. That's not what happens in a democracy. Pivot to a more unifying message. Even if you don't vote for me, as president I will listen to you, and I will look out for you and your interests too. That's the job. That's always been the job.

It's the kind of thing I'd expect Obama to nail (see e.g. his "Grace" speech), but we can't hold people to that standard.
 
superrific said:
They won't get him through the Senate to do the shit he's talking about.

But more importantly, Trump doesn't give a shit about RFK. He just liked the name. RFK is going to be more Peter Navarro than anyone important.
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Trump doesn't give a shit about RFKJr, but he understands loyalty and rewarding it like the wannabe mob boss he is.

He'll repay RFKJr's loyalty unless he's forced not to or unless RFKJr does something disloyal.
 
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