2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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Zoo_View said:
Harris might win with 270 (AZ, NV, GA, and NC go to Trump); Trump might win with 272 (AZ, GA, NC, and WI go to Trump and NV to Harris). In both scenarios, Harris wins Pennsylvania.

It’s not going to be 268-268.

It’s coming down to Pennsyltucky and lily white Wisconsin.

I just don’t see Harris winning GA, NC, or AZ.
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She could very well win one of those states.
 
heelinhell said:
short answer is yes with a 268-268 EC. I think that is highly unlikely. The winner will get a minimum of 276 EC votes and probably over 300 EC votes

Of course if it is 268-268 the house will select Trump.

If Trump has to win I would prefer that he is the clear EC winner with 300+ votes and that he will lose the popular vote by 10 million votes. In that scenario maybe a consensus in the country will demand the elimination of the EC
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Trump is going to declare he is the winner even if he loses every swing state. His supporters will claim the losses are fraudulent and in several of these states, local election official positions have become much more partisan over the last 4 years. Think the psychos who have taken over small town school boards.

It doesn’t have to be a razor thin election for them to try to blow things up. What’s stopping some local goofballs in BFE, Wisconsin from trying to delay/stop the state certification because they are just sure that Milwaukee County’s count is “rigged?”
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
Trump is going to declare he is the winner even if he loses every swing state. His supporters will claim the losses are fraudulent and in several of these states, local election official positions have become much more partisan over the last 4 years. Think the psychos who have taken over small town school boards.

It doesn’t have to be a razor thin election for them to try to blow things up. What’s stopping some local goofballs in BFE, Wisconsin from trying to delay/stop the state certification because they are just sure that Milwaukee County’s count is “rigged?”
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Jail
 
RockyMtnHoo said:
I’d only be ok with a federal pardon for Trump from Biden on one huge condition. If granted, he can’t give one interview or put anything on social media claiming anything was stolen. The first time he does, it’s off the table.
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And he can’t be preemptively pardoned like Nixon. The trials must take place and the evidence presented to the American public. Once he is convicted the sentences will be commuted, but if he violates any terms of the agreement the commutation is rescinded.
 
“Donald Trump gave a profane and conspiracy-laden speech two days before the presidential election, talking about reporters being shot and suggesting he ‘shouldn’t have left’ the White House after his 2020 loss to Democrat Joe Biden,” the AP reports.

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Trump talks about reporters being shot and says he shouldn't have left White House after 2020 loss

Donald Trump is asking voters in Pennsylvania again to make him leader of a “failed nation." Kamala Harris countered from a Michigan church pulpit that God offers America a “divine plan strong enough to heal division."
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“In remarks Sunday that bore no resemblance to his standard speech in the campaign’s closing stretch, the former president repeatedly cast doubt on the integrity of the vote and resurrected old grievances about being prosecuted after trying to overturn his defeat four years ago.”
 
farce© said:
And he can’t be preemptively pardoned like Nixon. The trials must take place and the evidence presented to the American public. Once he is convicted the sentences will be commuted, but if he violates any terms of the agreement the commutation is rescinded.
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The time for that deal has passed. This is like getting a jury verdict and then taking a guilty plea. Nope. He put us through hell. No deals. No pardons. No communtations.

I would be willing to accept the US not seeking extradition if he promises to leave the country and never return.
 
superrific said:
The time for that deal has passed. This is like getting a jury verdict and then taking a guilty plea. Nope. He put us through hell. No deals. No pardons. No communtations.

I would be willing to accept the US not seeking extradition if he promises to leave the country and never return.
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He can still have a voice in a foreign country. My goal is to remove his platform.
 
hedge said:
After he's exhausted all legal challenges and still loses, he'll be like Hitler in the bunker saying that the German people (or in this case, Maga) stabbed him in the back and didn't do enough. He'll portray himself as betrayed by Maga, which I'm sure he'll really believe..
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I dunno. It’s a little late for an old dog to learn a new trick. He’ll keep blaming the same “enemies” he always blames.
 
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